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the better question is: why are YOU on this forum? This seems to be more your style

one of the major reasons that ati cards are not handling doom3 benchmarks well is that ati has not done any real updates of their openGL drivers in almost a year. watch that change shortly.

my 9800 pro is scoring aroun 6600, but the rest of my system is better than yours :o

let me elaborate. if a hardware company, such as nVidia, gave money to or otherwise paid or influenced a software company, like EA, to code games so that only it's hardware could be used at the exclusion of its only competitor, then nVidia and perhaps EA could be proven to be in violation of...

illegal

with the VGA silencer my core caps at 420, but with 3.3 Hynix Ram i am at 380 artifact free

that guy is such a virgin:rolleyes:

ummm w1zzard is the creator of atitool. and as far as i know it will run indefinately

or you can spend $15 more and get a 9800 pro from newegg that will beat the crap out of any 5900.

how do oyu display your in-game fps in the UT2K4 demo?

3:2 means that your RAM is running at that ratio to your FSB the 2.5-4-4-8 are your CAS latency timings (lower is better)

did your sp-94 come with some funky looking wires? go to thermalright.com and check out the installation of sp-94. look at step 13.

hahahahaahahhahahah @ people who make death threats over the internet. complete losers.

probably, most benchmarks i've seen show that p4c's prefer high memory frequency

shit, i tried XP's service pack 2 beta. if the XP-64 beta is as buggy and unstable then NO WAY will it give a performance boost in upcoming 64-bit games (all 2 of them in 2004 :rolleyes: ). i will never beta any OS again.

the level II mushkin is the only one that has Winbond BH-5 chips...which tend to overclock heavily. i would assume that level 1 uses CH-5 which will probably be fine for stock speeds (but wont do 2-2-2-5 like level 2) and mild o/c'ing

i was under the impression that the MX700 base should be like a foot from any other electrical appliance so as to not distort or disrupt its signal :confused:

the p4c800-e deluxe seems to be a kickass board

i would disagree, meaning i would suggest waiting even longer. I tend to like to let the technology mature a little before i buy it, let everything sort itself out. Q4 2004 - Q1 2005 i will probably start building a new rig. also, the prices are bound to be prohibitively high at the...

shouldnt he uninstall his gfx and sound drivers, then reinstall the motherboard/chipset drivers?

under jumperfree config in the BIOS there should be something that looks like DRAM FREQUENCY. this will allow you to manually set your RAM dividers. its right underneath the cpu frequency. 400 = 1:1 320 = 5:4 266 = 3:2 setting it to Auto will do it for you. I have never tested that so...

all you really should do is put a small dot about 1/2 the size of a bb on the exact middle of the heatspreader of the p4. thats it.

i would call Mushkin and ask :D

i've heard good things about the VGA silencer actually, when its coupled with as5

hey man, either way you will have a fine processor. With excellent cooling you can probably get that 2.8 to beat the a64 even in gaming applications. its up to you, the p4 will just take a little bit more work :D . i guess something in my character loves high clock speeds and FSB

my level II is rock stable at 225mhz on stock voltage with the p4c800-e deluxe. still garnering the courage to do the vdimm mod

that OEM sapphire on newegg for $229 is a really good deal.

is this the same Sapphire 9800 PRO that is going for $229 on newegg?

do your lapping on a perfectly flat surface (i used a mirror). wet your sandpaper and use a tiny amount of dish soap (for lubrication). i used 400, 600, 800, 1200, 1500, 2000 grit sandpaper, each for about 10 minutes (best place to find them is in auto parts stores, napa, pep boys etc)...

ok one more: who is the best manufacturer of 9800 pros in terms of overclocking potential? ATI, Sapphire, Hercules, Tyan, etc etc. any ideas? i'm really just asking about which one has the best rep. oh oh, do i need anything special to attach the VGA silencer to a 9800 pro or 9700 pro...

i've heard good things about the VGA silencer, but it doesnt cool the ram, are there any aftermarket ram sinks out there? hmmmm....i understand that ATI and Sapphire cards all use samsung ram, is that true? and is that the better ram o'c-wise?

will this herc 9800 pro have sufficient cooling ot o/c well http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-120-138&catalog=48&depa=1 , or would i be better served to buy a less expensive 9800 pro and getting after market cooling. also, zalman heatpipe or VGA silencer :D

under the jumperfree configuration menu in the BIOS turn the first option to Manual. then you can tweak everything yourself. and the RAM timings are under the Chipset menu. disable set SPD by default (or sumthing, cant remember the exact phrase)

i'd get a sp-94 + 92mm tornado + as5 and lap the hell out of it, but thats just me.

no. Omega's drivers are unofficially supported by ATI however, if that makes you feel more comfortable about them. what omega does is tweak the registry of the official catalyst drivers to optimize them for gaming afaik.

i have a SP-94 + a 92mm Tornado, but i cant get my 3.0 to run at 260, it wont even post i dont think :( but i'm sure the level II can handle it 5:4

level II has BH-5, level 1 has ch-5 or bh-6 level II will probably never go down in price sorry. newegg probably has some of the last bh-5 chips in existence, so i imagine that if anything the price will go up :(

no way you can get mushkin to 260 1:1 at any timings with stock voltage (can you smell volt mod?) you have water cooling? thats a really high clock speed, 3.0c's are hot procs. with my 3.0c i cant get my pc3500 level II to any higher than 230 1:1, but with pretty good timings 2-3-2-6.

Performance Accelerating Technology (PAT) is a term used by Intel to describe a feature of the 875 chipset that sets it apart from the i865PE. Asus simply made it toggleable and called it "Performance Acceleration Mode" (PAM) and offers an option to enable of disable it in the BIOS, under...

there is no real need to apply paste all over the heat spreader, just the small area directly above the core.