Armenius
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Agreed. Buy the slower 4060Ti 16GB for $50 more.LOL a full 'tier' of performance for only $50 more
I predict that is precisely what the market will do.Agreed. Buy the slower 4060Ti 16GB for $50 more.
Wonder if it is an indication of aggressive margin (for that type of product) on the 7800xtLOL a full 'tier' of performance for only $50 more
One of the good sellers has been the 1660 super and the 1650 in 2023, I doubt the vast majority of buyers knows about CUDA or can name an AI library.That 80% of people buying nVidia aren’t “just” 4090 buyers. It’s across all of nVidias product stack. So even price being “an object” a vast majority of people prefer nVidia’s software features, integration, CUDA, access to AI libraries, DLSS, and drivers regardless of price vs an AMD card.
Well they want the 7800 to move, the 7700 exists to make it look better.i have no idea wtf amd is doing with these pricing structures.
7900XT is $100 less than 7900XTX
7700XT is $50 less than 7800XT
i cant wait to see how these perform. I get the aggressive pricing of the 7800xt, but $50 difference for a tier lmao. If they want agressive pricing, why not make the part $350 or 400
Right now on the canadian and american AMD store the 6750xt is $420 USD, 6800xt are still above $500, make you wonder are free they are to price their lineup without breaking AIBs inventoryi cant wait to see how these perform. I get the aggressive pricing of the 7800xt, but $50 difference for a tier lmao.
The naming of the 7800xt is odd. Could have been plain 7800 like the 6800.Well they want the 7800 to move, the 7700 exists to make it look better.
Then they can drop the prices on the 7700 when they need to clear them out for the 8000 series.
It's 10% in each instance. Nothing weird about it.i have no idea wtf amd is doing with these pricing structures.
7900XT is $100 less than 7900XTX
7700XT is $50 less than 7800XT
i cant wait to see how these perform. I get the aggressive pricing of the 7800xt, but $50 difference for a tier lmao. If they want agressive pricing, why not make the part $350 or 400
Maybe but AMD is getting away from gimping their silicon, the only way that part should exist is if the yields are poor and they are closing things off for binning stability. TSMCs node is mature enough that it should not exist to that degree, and that part would only serve to lower their margins on the 32 sku as a whole, Lisa promised 56% to investors and she aims to deliver.The naming of the 7800xt is odd. Could have been plain 7800 like the 6800.
There seems to be room for one more navi 32 sku with 48 CU (& 12gb). Maybe plain 7700 at $400
10% rebate for a 15% lost in performance is historically strange for that market and did not survive.It's 10% in each instance. Nothing weird about it.
i have no idea wtf amd is doing with these pricing structures.
7900XT is $100 less than 7900XTX
7700XT is $50 less than 7800XT
i cant wait to see how these perform. I get the aggressive pricing of the 7800xt, but $50 difference for a tier lmao. If they want agressive pricing, why not make the part $350 or 400
Guess they still have a sizable 6800 inventory. The 7900xt dropped considerably once 6900xt and 6950xt started clearing so likely the 7700xt will do the same.
That was an architectural change, consistent across all of RDNA3 for better or worse it’s what they did.RDNA 2 has alot more cache in the upper midrange than RDNA 3 so it's still kind of hard to compare architecture improvements.
Closest you could so would be to limit the clock of the 7600xt to around 1300 mhz and compare it to the 6650xt
That would get you both at around 11 T-flops, 280 gb/s, and 32 GB infinity cache.
Somewhat meaningless academic stuff, what really matters is $/fps regardless of nerd specs.
That someone at AMD is also been sloppy when editing the price slide.i just cant shake this feeling that someone at AMD thinks they are being smart
Yea the $50 difference is just the same tactic they did with the 7900 XT. Nobody would buy the 7900 XT when the XTX seems like the better deal. AMD clearly hasn't learned anything from all this. I think the 7700XT will be faster than the 4060 Ti, but it also has less VRAM than the 4060 Ti 16GB while also only costing $50 less. It's clear that AMD wants people to buy the 7800XT. It's also clear that these prices are still based on Nvidia's pricing and not AMD's manufacturing costs.i have no idea wtf amd is doing with these pricing structures.
7900XT is $100 less than 7900XTX
7700XT is $50 less than 7800XT
i cant wait to see how these perform. I get the aggressive pricing of the 7800xt, but $50 difference for a tier lmao. If they want agressive pricing, why not make the part $350 or 400
I have to think AMD knows what they are doing here being a take-two. Obvious sell is the 7800XT just like the 7900XTX was. Bin poor yield chips and when you have a large amount dramatically drop price a-la the 7900XT and get a boost in sales for the newly priced 7700XT.LOL a full 'tier' of performance for only $50 more
Yeah I have a feeling it'll be just like the 7900XT, irrelavent at MSRP but after awhile prices will drop to where it makes sense. 7900XT at $900 sucked, but it's ok now at the current $750-800. 7700XT is bad deal at $450, but once it inevitably drops to ~$380-400 it'll be more appealing.Yea the $50 difference is just the same tactic they did with the 7900 XT. Nobody would buy the 7900 XT when the XTX seems like the better deal. AMD clearly hasn't learned anything from all this. I think the 7700XT will be faster than the 4060 Ti, but it also has less VRAM than the 4060 Ti 16GB while also only costing $50 less. It's clear that AMD wants people to buy the 7800XT. It's also clear that these prices are still based on Nvidia's pricing and not AMD's manufacturing costs.
If you are buying immediately then the 7800xt.If it’s enough of an upgrade over my 6700xt I might grab a 7800xt for the antilag+. (Assuming it’s actually good).
Because a lot of people were buying 4060's? In those 5 months AMD was selling off their RDNA2 cards at Nvidia's expense. It shows because there are reports of AMD selling as well as Nvidia.Interested in seeing how the 7800XT performs. The $500 price seems like a good deal. Too bad it is 5 months late otherwise I may have purchased it.
It's very likely that the 7700XT will be much faster than the 4060Ti, so it can justify the 200 watts draw. AMD wouldn't price it as high if they didn't know they had a performance advantage. The problem here is that the 4060 Ti has no business being $400 or $500, with or without 16GB. Which means the 7700 XT also has no business being $450. If nobody was buying the 4060's then nobody will buy the 7700XT. The 7800 XT might be attractive enough for anyone looking for a cheaper RTX 4070. It's likely that Nvidia will introduce the 4070 Super and price drop the 4070 and 4070 Ti, or maybe just lower the prices of the 4070 and 4070 Ti.7700xt has 346mm of die (200mm of GCD) and launch cheaper than the 335mm 6700xt did, both with a 192 bit bus..
4060ti his a 188mm card on a 128 bits bus that peak a 160 watts of power, the bom cost depending on the cooling solution could be quite big in nvidia favor here.
It was also reported a while back that Nvidia had said in an investor call that they were putting a portion of the 4000 series sales into a slush fund to deal with cost reduction programs should it become necessary as they did not believe that their pricing was sustainable long term.Because a lot of people were buying 4060's? In those 5 months AMD was selling off their RDNA2 cards at Nvidia's expense. It shows because there are reports of AMD selling as well as Nvidia.
It's very likely that the 7700XT will be much faster than the 4060Ti, so it can justify the 200 watts draw. AMD wouldn't price it as high if they didn't know they had a performance advantage. The problem here is that the 4060 Ti has no business being $400 or $500, with or without 16GB. Which means the 7700 XT also has no business being $450. If nobody was buying the 4060's then nobody will buy the 7700XT. The 7800 XT might be attractive enough for anyone looking for a cheaper RTX 4070. It's likely that Nvidia will introduce the 4070 Super and price drop the 4070 and 4070 Ti, or maybe just lower the prices of the 4070 and 4070 Ti.
The 7900XTX i got was a huge upgrade over my 6700xt. These [H] sale forums have some great bargains, i got my reference for $825 shippedIf it’s enough of an upgrade over my 6700xt I might grab a 7800xt for the antilag+. (Assuming it’s actually good).
I don't live in the USA so the sale forums are no good for me ;-). Depending on benchmarks of the 7800xt I might grab a 7900xtx instead. But it's really only the antitlag+ I'm interested in since antilag has disappointing performance in comparison to reflex.The 7900XTX i got was a huge upgrade over my 6700xt. These [H] sale forums have some great bargains, i got my reference for $825 shipped
It will be. Not by any huge amount, but it will be stronger in both raster and RT. Hard to argue for the 6800....depending on prices. $380 card if you want Starfield.Here is hoping the 7800 is actually some sort of upgrade.
This seems $10 cheaperIt will be. Not by any huge amount, but it will be stronger in both raster and RT. Hard to argue for the 6800....depending on prices. $380 card if you want Starfield.
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6800-axrx-6800-16gbd6-3dh-oc/p/N82E16814131771