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I haven't heard that name in a long time. So is Kyle back or is he still at Intel?
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Yeah I had my eye on Suprim Liquid, but was a little disappointed the temp delta from the best air cards seemed to be only 2-5C (58C AIO vs 62C air for example). Or maybe its a symptom of the HSF of the air cards being that much better than 30-series, as they were perhaps sized and then overbuilt for a 600W original design. In any case I'll be picking up Suprim 4090 air version instead, to not have the clutter of a two-part AIO connected by umbilical.
The main advantage to Suprim Liquid seems mostly just if you need to preserve PCIe slots and keep a 2-slot form factor.
Kyle said in this very thread stock was unprecedentedly high. It still could be, with Nvidia just holding it in warehouses.
Nvidia is the hand that feeds in this relationship so....yeah.I really doubt Nvidia is in charge of MSI-ASUS-newegg, etc... stock, that almost the whole point to not just make FE, delegate.
Add Kyle to the bunchTold by whom though? MLID, JayzTwoBraincells and other bait-Youtubers pulling things out of their ass for clicks?
In any case supply will probably equalize within a couple weeks.
There are going to be LOTS of these in NA. There is more inventory for this product than almost any card I have ever seen launched in NA at any price. I guess NV was betting that Ethereum POS would be pushed off again. Watching inventories will be interesting.
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- Tuesday at 10:32 AM
- Forum: nVidia Flavor
Nvidia is the hand that feeds in this relationship so....yeah.
To sell 30series. Partners might not even want to ship it themselves because they need to sell 30series.Are you saying Nvidia is asking their partner to refuse to ship inventory of 4090 to not sold has many of them that they could ? With enough of a stronghold to enforce it ?
I mean maybe, but why ?
Only releasing the ultra expensive 4090 is doing that, yes I can fully see 4080 and even lower being ready and keep in warehouse.To sell 30series. Partners might not even want to ship it themselves because they need to sell 30series.
People with 2080ti's and below that want a 4090 for $1600-$1800 may definitely cave and get a $900-$1200 3090/3090ti on impulse if they can't get access to a 4090.Only releasing the ultra expensive 4090 is doing that, yes I can fully see 4080 and even lower being ready and keep in warehouse.
Very few people wanting a 4090 will back down to buy an Ampere series
I think it might be a bit of psychological gymnastics.Only releasing the ultra expensive 4090 is doing that, yes I can fully see 4080 and even lower being ready and keep in warehouse.
Very few people wanting a 4090 will back down to buy an Ampere series
Don't lie. Check nowinstock.net and you'll see how long it was in stock.No need to be that hyperbolic as it was there for at least 20 minutes.
Yeah, but it's usually imperfect in showing stuff in stock much longer than it actually is, not for less time.nowinstock is quite far from perfect
Didn't say it was. It's closer than the 20-minute quip that was given.nowinstock is quite far from perfect
I actually chatted with a BB customer rep the night before launch and they assured me that there would be plenty of stock. Pretty much lied to me IMO. If the 30 series launch didn't teach them to be more prepared nothing will.Looking at eBay for 4090 FE it pretty much confirms that nothing got sold in U.S. I did here bestbuy sell it in Canada and all the listings are in Canada. If it had sold in U.S I bet there would have been few listings there.
Bestbuy also has it now pick up on the 19th but unavailable. Seems to be a change there. I won’t be surprised if they drop them soon here in the U.S for instore pick up only.
lmao if you believe anything anyone at BB tellsI actually chatted with a BB customer rep the night before launch and they assured me that there would be plenty of stock. Pretty much lied to me IMO. If the 30 series launch didn't teach them to be more prepared nothing will.
Something is going on.I actually chatted with a BB customer rep the night before launch and they assured me that there would be plenty of stock. Pretty much lied to me IMO. If the 30 series launch didn't teach them to be more prepared nothing will.
FWIW pretty much any CSR reachable by online chat is usually sitting in another country and generally doesn't know anything. Specific information like stock levels isn't something circulated to low level employees - not the ones in the store, not the chat CSR's. They'll say whatever they can to get you off the chat.I actually chatted with a BB customer rep the night before launch and they assured me that there would be plenty of stock. Pretty much lied to me IMO. If the 30 series launch didn't teach them to be more prepared nothing will.
It is very possible that Nvidia, knowing the massive amount of RTX 3000 stock they need to sell through, decided to let AIBs have first crack at the RTX 4000 generation... as a gesture of good faith.Something is going on.
They probably do have a lot and haven’t launched em yet here. Either letting aib’s selling first Or may be wanted to offload all the 3090 Tis first, I am leaning towards this now. Which I think they did because it’s been selling out a lot each time it comes back in stock on BB. They have been selling lot of them given how it goes in and out. I think nvidia probably wanted to offload those first.
Looking at eBay for 4090 FE it pretty much confirms that nothing got sold in U.S.
No, 4090 FE got sold, they just haven't delivered yet. But it also seems it was regional, as some regions didn't light up at all. Probably next week.
Nvidia knows the 4090 FE is completely overbuilt, and at $1600, the other AIBs don't stand a chance. US is their biggest market, so instead of making their AIBs cards look like a complete rip off compared to the FE, they hold the stock back and let it do a slow drip into the market.I wanna believe you but I have seen 0 proof of it. They are moving so many 3090ti first. Never in ebay history I have seen 0 scalpers reselling from U.S. there would be at least one FE in the U.S with . All listings are form canada.
Yup, pretty much. It's all so tiresome.Win/win... except for the consumer.
Historic stocking levels in NA for a "halo" card. I have the feeling there are still a lot left in the channel that are not on shelves yet, but not sure why. Still figuring out the two story. Should know more soon.Kyle said in this very thread stock was unprecedentedly high. It still could be, with Nvidia just holding it in warehouses.
Meanwhile in Jensen's garage next to some ten-speeds:Historic stocking levels in NA for a "halo" card. I have the feeling there are still a lot left in the channel that are not on shelves yet, but not sure why. Still figuring out the two story. Should know more soon.
Those are with CyberPower in the UK.
MC's across the US did not start selling out till late yesterday some still had stock this morning, gone now.I now know of 4 separate people who simply walked into Microcenter and bought the Strix 4090 OC.
Historic stocking levels in NA for a "halo" card. I have the feeling there are still a lot left in the channel that are not on shelves yet, but not sure why. Still figuring out the two story. Should know more soon.
Don't like to tinfoil hat this, but that is surely something Nvidia would do to control channel inventory movement.You think it has to do with moving the 3k series left in the channel. Just control release of the 4090s? lmao.
The closest MC to me is ~ 3.5 hours away. In other words, there was no way for me to get a card other than buying it online - which I couldn't do because of the pathetic launch (on NewEgg, BestBuy etc.).MC's across the US did not start selling out till late yesterday some still had stock this morning, gone now.
Bummer. I have a huge one very close to me.The closest MC to me is ~ 3.5 hours away. In other words, there was no way for me to get a card other than buying it online - which I couldn't do because of the pathetic launch (on NewEgg, BestBuy etc.).
same here mine is 2 and half hour away. Can't really drive there with the way I am busy. May be if I am around there one day and still haven't lmao. Amazon seems to not give a shit about GPU launches either. I don't think they care too much and rather sell it as demand settles down.The closest MC to me is ~ 3.5 hours away. In other words, there was no way for me to get a card other than buying it online - which I couldn't do because of the pathetic launch (on NewEgg, BestBuy etc.).
For me it seemed if you really tried to get a card at launch time on Newegg you could have gotten one, they were in stock for a decent amount of time (long enough to order one anyway, nothing like the 30 series was) and were going in and out of stock for hours after.The closest MC to me is ~ 3.5 hours away. In other words, there was no way for me to get a card other than buying it online - which I couldn't do because of the pathetic launch (on NewEgg, BestBuy etc.).
For me it seemed if you really tried to get a card at launch time on Newegg you could have gotten one, they were in stock for a decent amount of time (long enough to order one anyway, nothing like the 30 series was) and were going in and out of stock for hours after.
That's exactly what's happening. 3090/Ti's are expensive to make, and the longer they sit on shelves, the more obsolete they become. It is in Nvidia's best interest to clear the channel of their previous generation halo products. Otherwise, Nvidia now has their super expensive previous gen halo cards competing with their less expensive mid/high-end products. No company wants that.You think it has to do with moving the 3k series left in the channel. Just control release of the 4090s? lmao.