TaintedSquirrel
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First, and most importantly: When Ryzen launches it won’t be limited to the high-end 8-core, 16-thread model AMD’s been showing in all its demos. AMD product manager Jim Prior tells me that Ryzen will be a complete stack of chips at release, though he declined to go into further details. Furthermore, each and every AM4 motherboard, cooler, and PC that AMD announced last night will be available from day one.
F** you AMD.
STOP GIVING ME HOPE.
I mean even if they can come close to performance I would buy just to help avoid the monopoly that Intel has right now. They released a 1700 dollar CPU this year! I mean come on!
I mean even if they can come close to performance I would buy just to help avoid the monopoly that Intel has right now. They released a 1700 dollar enthusiast CPU this year! I mean come on!
Yes, yes, engineering samples. I'll wait for this again with production run chips.
CPUs are only half the battle though. If all of the MBs that come out are shit, its not going to help.
Vote with your wallet. If you don't like the price don't buy it. But don't complain when other people buy it and find the value you do not.I mean even if they can come close to performance I would buy just to help avoid the monopoly that Intel has right now. They released a 1700 dollar CPU this year! I mean come on!
It is still a current problem too. I've been using APUs for machines with low requirements (my internet PC, HT pcs, etc) and the MB's I've been using are a far cry from the quality of the Maximus Series MB's I've been using for gaming PCs.This is an excellent point that's often overlooked. In the early Athlon days, the chips may have indeed been faster in many cases but the motherboards they ran on were garbage. I worked in a service center where we had stacks and stacks of Slot A motherboards with fried voltage hardware.
But wouldn't you expect that when comparing a $200-$400 motherboard versus a $60-$120 motherboards? My Asus 970 board that i had when i was running an 8320 was just as good as my current Z97mx 5 both i bought for around $120-$130It is still a current problem too. I've been using APUs for machines with low requirements (my internet PC, HT pcs, etc) and the MB's I've been using are a far cry from the quality of the Maximus Series MB's I've been using for gaming PCs.
If AMD f*cks this up, I am done. Also, we as a whole community are screwed. Intel will kick back, laugh, and crank up prices across the board 33%.
Time for player 3 to enter the game! Bring Cyrix back from the dead! (not really)
I have a i5 3570k, i7-6700hq, and 8350I'm more of the 'tough love' sort of consumer. Vote with your wallet: If Intel put out a better product, buy the better product. If Ryzen is good, I'll consider buying it. Don't let AMD think they can get away with trash.
I suspect this will not be as much a problem this time around. First, there are far fewer MB makers, and the overall reliability is much higher. Second, the motherboard makers can't afford any real missteps, as there is much higher visibility now than then, and the market has significantly contracted.This is an excellent point that's often overlooked. In the early Athlon days, the chips may have indeed been faster in many cases but the motherboards they ran on were garbage. I worked in a service center where we had stacks and stacks of Slot A motherboards with fried voltage hardware.
Sure, I only build 3-4 systems a year now, but as long as I have been using major brand motherboards, I haven't been having any problems with the cheaper models. In fact, that is almost exclusively what I use, but none of the systems I've been building are being overclocked or used with multiple graphics cards either.But wouldn't you expect that when comparing a $200-$400 motherboard versus a $60-$120 motherboards? My Asus 970 board that i had when i was running an 8320 was just as good as my current Z97mx 5 both i bought for around $120-$130
praying for ARM to take over
If AMD f*cks this up, I am done. Also, we as a whole community are screwed. Intel will kick back, laugh, and crank up prices across the board 33%.
Time for player 3 to enter the game! Bring Cyrix back from the dead! (not really)