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Because the 4090 is a card that costs twice as much if you can even buy it.
Do you even read my posts? Even the one that you’re quoting here? I have never “not said” that nVidia has an IQ advantage. I feel like you’re missing the point, the point is whether or not there is enough ROI there to make it worth buying an nVidia card.
I’ve addressed all this too. I think for your argument to make sense you’d have to show that there are going to be a bunch of engines that are incredibly taxing with their RT implementations.
They pretty much are. You missed Ratchet and Clank and Fortnite in hardware RT enabled mode. But the rest of the RT titles you can list the 7900XTX and 4080 run neck in neck.
Light RT is going to be a majority of the titles for the next 10 years. Considering only the top of the graphics card product stack is a common mistake.
Do I need to post Daniel Owen’s video again? 7900XTX is ahead of 4080 in 5 out of 6 titles.
I never said that. I’ve only ever said that you’re basing your position off of a minority of games. And games with PT will continue to be that for a while.
This is basically dodging the question.
Yes. If you’re a dev that’s who you’re targeting.
I mentioned the PS5 Pro (again, it still won’t have path tracking though. And even if it did/will it will be targeting AMD hardware and or/low RT implementations). But this whole section of your post is “obvious”. You don't need to bring up monitors: we're talking about top end consumer hardware with the 4090. It's a $1600 MSRP graphics card, it costs more than a 42" LG C3 or Sony A90k. Tech companies are gonna push tech.
Yeah, the open CPU branch. Nvidia's highly optimized advanced (proprietary / owned) version? Dead.
Epic has also ditched PhysX in UE5 for their own home grown physics engine.
I would think that was necessary in order to have better control over resources. Putting together, especially black box code, makes making optimize coordinated programs almost impossible.
4090 at 4K Native, Alan Wake, High Quality Preset, High Quality Ray tracing -> 28fps. I really don't think in the near or somewhat distant future low end and mid range GPUs will have double the performance of the 4090 (basically double the transistors or clock speed) to make PT that common even many years to come. DLSS and frame generation can make it more playable. I don't see frame generation even usable unless the base frame rate is rather high as in 60+, preferably much higher. Unless AMD/Nvidia start making multi die GPU solutions that work, I see a wall with Path tracing or any real ray tracing solution for lighting in games. The performance hit to image quality gains is hard to justify. Plus may types of games, fast paced, MP, VR games need the FPS to play. FPS can be the overriding most important feature for a game that trumps RT image quality gains.
Your logic is flipped.
UE5 doesn't have PhysX, but it was the preferred physics engine in UE4. Epic decided to minimize the amount of third-party software present in UE5.
NVIDIA released PhysX under the BSD-3 license long before GPU-accelerated physics fell to the wayside. You can still implement the GPU-accelerated physics in the current version should you choose to. Support for it still exists in the drivers, including for current products.
I understand why they did that (fairness) but I doubt anyone is going to care much. This is just going to be another small performance bump in all likelihood.
I'm talking in comparison to the card it's replacing.
A good bump lower in price. Card is still over priced in the end
Yeah that's effectively what I was saying. That's why reviews probably won't tell us much we don't already know. I'd love to see a larger performance bump but ~5-10% (over the 4080) seems highly likely. I guess the only real thing to see is how close to MSRP the AIB models will be.
Blackwell may be delayed. If it’s significantly delayed then what Makes sense changes.
It's called margin of error run to run.
A rumor only being reported by RTG at this stage.
Shouldn't the thread title be updated to
Well, the alternative is what AMD has done, right? Not a fucking thing coming from that camp except the trash tier 7600XT, which is the worse price/performance anyone has seen like ever. No refresh even rumored and no price cuts to even compete with NV refresh.
And the source is suspect, random Chinese site who sourced it independently before the embargo lifted…It's called margin of error run to run.
