Assisting them with what? Wasn't Windows 8 supposed to be so eeeaaaasy to use?
Meh, my comment was about BB and not Win8. Was off topic in the first place.
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Assisting them with what? Wasn't Windows 8 supposed to be so eeeaaaasy to use?
I have ended up swapping all of my PCs to win8 after using it for a while.
I really like metro, and find it much faster to interact with than the start button, once I figured it out.
Tell me how many clicks it takes you to get to your device manager from your desktop in W8.
In Windows 7 it takes four.
Mister Turtle, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
i really hope she can fix all this damage, i have such a disdain for W8
It's an extremely easy fix. Give people a choice between desktop and metro. I do not want a touch interface for my PC.
but i don't want 8, it does things i disagree with
i really hope she can fix all this damage, i have such a disdain for W8
She's not going to 'fix' anything. She's firmly on record saying she's behind Metro. Frankly, no one at MS seems to have a clue about how to proceed.
Ask Mister Owl.
Metro is certainly the right approach for the company, at least until something else seems more relevant.She's not going to 'fix' anything. She's firmly on record saying she's behind Metro. Frankly, no one at MS seems to have a clue about how to proceed.
Tell me how many clicks it takes you to get to your device manager from your desktop in W8.
In Windows 7 it takes four.
Two, right click on lower left hot corner which brings up the Power Menu and then left click on Device Manager.
Metro is certainly the right approach for the company, at least until something else seems more relevant.
By that I mean Metro is the right design language and the right touch interface (for the most part). I'm still not convinced that Metro is the right desktop UI implementation.
The fact is there is no technical leadership in the Windows group anymore. Ballmer and JLG have no technical background and this is not good for the future of the company's core product.
She's a programmer with masters in CS and started in MS in the visual studio group. I would say she has more actual expertise and leadership than the majority of posters here.
Really? That's how you want to start the thread off?
Can we not have a single W8 related thread where it doesn't devolve into "W8 doesn't suck," and "W8 is the worst thing evar!!!"?
This thread is about Windows and the future of Windows so Windows 8 is kind of a big deal.
Incoming = future
Windows group = Windows
Windows future; future Windows.
I fail to see how anyone is confused about how to fix the whole metro thing. Default metro ui on touch devices, default aero on non touch and give people a toggle to turn it on or off on either. Problem solved, everyone is happy and Microsoft gets to keep their customers. It confounds me why anyone would be against choice.
i sure hope so. im having trouble sleeping at night knowing you are so upset with the direction microsoft has chosen.
i just can't see the justification of having a tablet operating system on a desktop
But what does this do other than appease people with a UI for form factors that are not growing very fast? At some point after 17, then 20 then 25 years the Windows becomes nothing more than a dinosaur that then has no hope for any future because the same old thing kept getting pushed until it died of old age.
But what does this do other than appease people with a UI for form factors that are not growing very fast? At some point after 17, then 20 then 25 years the Windows becomes nothing more than a dinosaur that then has no hope for any future because the same old thing kept getting pushed until it died of old age.
But what does this do other than appease people with a UI for form factors that are not growing very fast? At some point after 17, then 20 then 25 years the Windows becomes nothing more than a dinosaur that then has no hope for any future because the same old thing kept getting pushed until it died of old age.
There are a hundred ways to enable touch in Windows that are better than what they did in Win 8. You keep repeating this as if Metro on the desktop was the only possible solution.
There's always options and room for improvement, I've never said otherwise. But what I do believe is that the notion of keeping the Windows desktop just the same and the concept of a Metro off switch isn't a long term solution to anything if desktops and laptops are a stagnant market. Tablets and desktops are going to converge in time, it's just inevitable, the platforms just don't do inherently different things, surfing the web, playing games, reading content, even creating content on a tablet is shared between the platforms. There's no doubt that tablets are going to improve in content creation ability, they are already.
Keeps their existing customer base, doesn't alienate large swaths of their customer base, gives those being extremely vocal about their displeasure of the new UI a choice in the matter, Presents the opportunity for the UI to actually be given a fair chance, because if it is as good as they think it is it will take off. Cramming it down peoples throats is having the opposite effect. You know, all the things Win 8 is currently managing to do with pissing off the largest portion of MS's customer base. Doesn't matter if Tablets are the fastest growing market, their sales are still a drop in the bucket compared to standard Windows volume. You keep preaching this point like it actually matters, pity it actually doesn't.
There's always options and room for improvement, I've never said otherwise. But what I do believe is that the notion of keeping the Windows desktop just the same and the concept of a Metro off switch isn't a long term solution to anything if desktops and laptops are a stagnant market. Tablets and desktops are going to converge in time, it's just inevitable, the platforms just don't do inherently different things, surfing the web, playing games, reading content, even creating content on a tablet is shared between the platforms. There's no doubt that tablets are going to improve in content creation ability, they are already.
Will the tablet replace the desktop as a gaming platform? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh i'm sorry, you were being serious...HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH oh god..I can't stop..HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. While fun games like Angry birds are time wasters, far from the gaming experience a desktop with a 24"+ single or multi-monitor rig can provide.
And how many people game with that kind of hardware? I do, and I have tablets as well so I know the difference. But I also know that this is niche crowd. I find ironic for all of the years that Windows tablets have been niche that it could very well be that in a few years Windows tablets could be a much larger audience than PC gamers with dedicated GPUs.
I just don't buy adding in a Metro off switch instantly makes Windows 8 loved by all. It goes in the face of history were people don't upgrade, especially businesses that never upgrade to the latest and greatest Windows and that a supermajority of new versions of Windows come with new hardware, and new hardware is a key part of Windows 8, much more so than prior versions of Windows. Holding on to the old UI doesn't help develop the touch and tablet aspects of Windows, those are FAR more important to the future growth of Windows than the desktop.
And how many people game with that kind of hardware? I do, and I have tablets as well so I know the difference. But I also know that this is niche crowd. I find ironic for all of the years that Windows tablets have been niche that it could very well be that in a few years Windows tablets could be a much larger audience than PC gamers with dedicated GPUs.
Then why aren't you talking about her?Yet the thread is about the person, not Windows.