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Where did the air-slots go in the renderings?
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Where did the air-slots go in the renderings?
You'll need a custom riser if you're going to have the gpu positioned like that.
Wouldn't it be better if you had a riser card instead and have the gpu fans facing upwards? The fans would get more air and it would keep the costs down too.
I think you need some irregularities in the vent holes, maybe something like this:
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I think we'll need a PCIe riser cable of at least 18cm in length to have the GPU positioned that way. I believe 20cm PCIe riser cables can be bought, so I don't think I would necessarily need to customize it. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by customize?
I do agree that I can save some money by using a PCIe riser card, which I like. However, my main issues with a PCIe riser card are:
1) It's hard to get exactly the right height without customizing. In a case with 70mm of height, being off by 5mm can mean being able to fit less components.
2) PCIe riser cards generally require an extra PCIe extension thing to work (The top part of: http://www.quietpc.com/images/products/hfx-pcix16.jpg). If you don't have that part, the PCIe bracket on the GPU will overlap with the motherboard's i/o shield. Having that part adds a useless 1cm section in the middle of the case, which I don't like because it's wasted space.
I also kinda like the fact that the top and front part has no exhaust/intake holes. I think that gives it a slicker look
Why would the fans get more air when the GPU is facing up vs down?
I completely agree about having some irregularities in the intake/exhaust holes. I'm also not sure if I want to just have "holes". Other shapes will probably look nicer. I will be working this out with my designer
Dude - use JPEG's!
Are you making this slit so huge because if you made it fit sides it wouldn't come together perfectly? It's quite a problem to make the faces come together.
How are the two panels attach to each other? I think if you give some info on that, it would ease people's minds... well, at least it would mine
Alright, that explains it. I guess as long as, once attached, the panels are not moving with respect to each other, it should be fine. Renders most of the time exaggerate the visuals, so seeing in person would've helped. That space should be around 1mm, correct?
Hey everyone, quick update and a quick question. Right now, I have the exterior of the case designed as 2 pieces that come together, like this:
However, since nothing can be manufactured perfectly, there will be a small slit between the 2 pieces. So my question is simple: Does it bother you?
If the inner frame can be painted you can make the gap a detailing feature, exposing the inner frame along a continuous looping path around the case.
If the inner frame can be painted you can make the gap a detailing feature, exposing the inner frame along a continuous looping path around the case.
I thought you got rid of the front vent holes?
Also, PM'd you.
Yeah I think that would be quite the idea.
I like the new design for the hole patterns, that looks pretty mesmerising
New renderings are looking good, I love the versatility! Really looking forward to the new prototype as well, this is coming along just nicely.
I'm very interested in seeing what prototyping does to this thing.
I worry about the airflow, honestly - I think that with the way it's set up, it's going to get really dusty rather quickly.
Are you concerned about the airflow or the dust build-up? They're a bit different.
I'm doing a test to answer some questions I have about airflow myself. Expect the test results up next week.
As for dust, I'm wondering if I should provide dust filters or just have people install their own. What do you think?
I think it depends on what dust filters you can provide. If you can supply magnetic dust filters like some LianLi cases have them, ship them with the case. If you're only able to put regular filters in that are mounted on the fan mounting holes, don't.
I was thinking more along the lines of magnetic dust filters like the ones offered by silverstone. I'm not sure how I feel about the dust-filtering capabilities of a metal mesh though, currently experimenting with my PC
Either way, if they're something that's hard to get on the aftermarket, you should include them. I personally don't know how the mesh filters perform, but I could imagine that the ones from Silverstone would work better, so if you decide they'll be the recommended solution, you may want to offer them bundled with the case, while still allowing users to order it without filters.
It's just a thought but I'm not sure if 463mm is such a small form factor. It's something people noted early during my research. IT's not all about the volume but biggest dimension also matters. the server rack is 430mm wide which means your case is a lot wider than rack servers and routers.
I understand that approach is simpler and cheaper thanks to all connectors facing back and no need for special cable and bracket for power supply but still it'll be something of a 22" widescreen width.
I realized it after first prototype that every cm above 32 is making the size more and more undesirable.
Reminds of the early 90s when I had my CRT on top of a steel desktop case. It DID bow a little. You've got extra GPU support, but to support a 22"+ monitor, you may need additional bracing or structural bends in the top panel. Careful testing!With my design of having no exhaust holes on top, you can put your monitor/TV and stuff on the PC, so the effective desktop space it takes up is small. It's also fairly thin, so it doesn't significantly elevate the screen or anything.
I believe that the issue most people have with one dimension being big is with the footprint of the PC case. Normally your PC will take up x*y amount of area on your desk, and if x or y is big, then you have less effective space, which is undesirable.
With my design of having no exhaust holes on top, you can put your monitor/TV and stuff on the PC, so the effective desktop space it takes up is small. It's also fairly thin, so it doesn't significantly elevate the screen or anything.
In fact, I think this might be the first gaming-grade PC case design that is aimed at an integrated look with the rest of the desktop/living room electronics. I will try and get a few renders of the case with monitors and stuff so people can get a feel for what that's like.
Ah man, both you and dondan are killing me here. So good, but in the end there can be only one for me.
Reminds of the early 90s when I had my CRT on top of a steel desktop case. It DID bow a little. You've got extra GPU support, but to support a 22"+ monitor, you may need additional bracing or structural bends in the top panel. Careful testing!
Ah man, both you and dondan are killing me here. So good, but in the end there can be only one for me.
Reminds of the early 90s when I had my CRT on top of a steel desktop case. It DID bow a little. You've got extra GPU support, but to support a 22"+ monitor, you may need additional bracing or structural bends in the top panel. Careful testing!
Yes to all of this. Especially the integration in a HiFi rack. Most DVRs are very wide, this design will fit in there nicely.
I think 463mm are also a very good width for having your monitor on the case. If I look at my 19.5" monitor (which is about the smallest size people use with desktops, it's 515mm wide, so having Inverse sit below it could work very well.
But, and I think that's a big problem for some, Inverse is too deep to put it below a monitor. On most desks, the monitor is as far away from the user as possible, which means close to the far edge of the desk. None of the feet of the screens I have here have a higher depth than 200mm, having the case under it extend an additional 100mm is a pretty big deal in my eyes, as it highly reduces the space you have available on the desk.
This is probably a non-issue for people that use their desk just for the PC, but if you also work on it in other ways, this may be a problem.
Still, I wouldn't say that the case depth should be reduced. As it is now, Inverse will work for a lot of people, and reducing the size now will require compromising in other areas. SFF isn't always about portability, and this case falls into that category.
Yeah esplin should test this, but LCDs are a lot lighter than the good ol' CRT, so I suspect it won't really be a problem.