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Not a review. Just an editorial.AdoredTV just put one out : https://adoredtv.com/amd-rx-6000-analysis-snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory/
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Not a review. Just an editorial.AdoredTV just put one out : https://adoredtv.com/amd-rx-6000-analysis-snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory/
Wow, that is quite the butthurt "review", I'm happy overall with the AMD showing the cards land right about where all the reasonable information said they were going too. I've been saying for a while that many of the "leaks" were just too good to be true and that they were there to get the AMD diehards over-hyped so that when the actual product launched they would be let down by what is by all accounts a good card. AdoredTV's article there really just goes to show that a counter whisper campaign can still work.Not a review. Just an editorial.
I don't know what you mean.Wow, that is quite the butthurt "review", I'm happy overall with the AMD showing the cards land right about where all the reasonable information said they were going too. I've been saying for a while that many of the "leaks" were just too good to be true and that they were there to get the AMD diehards over-hyped so that when the actual product launched they would be let down by what is by all accounts a good card. AdoredTV's article there really just goes to show that a counter whisper campaign can still work.
That's the thing depending on where you were getting your "leaks", the card either exceeded, met, or vastly underwhelmed. For me, it falls in the meets/exceeds, but for many others, Adored included they are vastly underwhelmed, and strait up disappointed by AMD's showing that it isn't half the power draw at a 20% performance increaseI don't know what you mean.
Navi2x/RDNA2 has far exceeded expectation
Not many people thought that AMD would challenge NVIDIA at the very top end.
Agreed, this is why measuring against expectations is meaningless. The only measurement that matters is against the competition.That's the thing depending on where you were getting your "leaks", the card either exceeded, met, or vastly underwhelmed. For me, it falls in the meets/exceeds, but for many others, Adored included they are vastly underwhelmed, and strait up disappointed by AMD's showing that it isn't half the power draw at a 20% performance increase
In other words, Adored hype the #### out of it and gets "disappointed" when it doesn't quite live up to his own hype.That's the thing depending on where you were getting your "leaks", the card either exceeded, met, or vastly underwhelmed. For me, it falls in the meets/exceeds, but for many others, Adored included they are vastly underwhelmed, and strait up disappointed by AMD's showing that it isn't half the power draw at a 20% performance increase
Them and a handful of others but yeah.In other words, Adored hype the #### out of it and gets "disappointed" when it doesn't quite live up to his own hype.
What?I will still buy an RTX 3080. AMD did a good job with the 6800/6900 seires...BUT
I never buy the first model of anything.
They didn't, its the 20xx v2.What?
I didn't realized that NVIDIA has released GeForce RTX 3080 v2.
Radeon RX 6800 XT is already version 6 since it has 6xxx in its name.They didn't, its the 20xx v2.
I'm only accounting for RT & DLSS / Fedelity FX features.Radeon RX 6800 XT is already version 6 since it has 6xxx in its name.
What?
I didn't realized that NVIDIA has released GeForce RTX 3080 v2.
It's unlikely but not impossible, GDDR6x uses PAM4 signaling and not NRZ like the standard GDDR6, PAM4 is much more prone to signal issues and requires significant considerations when designing the PCB and surrounding components, it also uses more overall energy and generates more heat all while costing more money itself. If AMD were to release a card using the memory it likely would no longer be able to claim their overall energy efficiency, the card would likely also end up costing at least on par with their NVidia counterparts, and because of AMD's cache and other architecture changes, I'm not even sure that it would result in a dramatic performance improvement worthy of the cost over the previous model.Looks like the perfect 1440P high refresh rate card, seems to fall a bit behind in 4K. I wonder if AMD will refresh these with GDDR6X at some point.
I don't know what you mean.
Navi2x/RDNA2 has far exceeded expectation
Not many people thought that AMD would challenge NVIDIA at the very top end.
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AdoredTV just put one out : https://adoredtv.com/amd-rx-6000-analysis-snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory/
I think they're going to play it safe. They probably still have nightmares about HBM2.Looks like the perfect 1440P high refresh rate card, seems to fall a bit behind in 4K. I wonder if AMD will refresh these with GDDR6X at some point.
I think they're going to play it safe. They probably still have nightmares about HBM2.
They should make 16GB's of that sweet Infinity Fabric!
Yes, I think I'm even more excited as to what their next card could bring. the on die cache system is a neat idea.Nice to see a company that learns from its mistakes. Exotic memories can sink an entire lineup. Cool that they can compete with that exotic memory with a on die cache system. Next die shrink should really be great for them. If they can double or even triple the amount of cache I imagine feeding 4k will be as easy as 1080.
That is what stood out to me. The guy was a bit harsh on the 6000's being disappointing, they were not. He was accurate, the 6800 xt did not quite take the crown, came close. But to say RTX 3000 was underwhelming is plain silly. That is what makes the 6000's so impressive, NVIDIA dropped a bomb and AMD still closed the gap.lol.
Definitely a glass half empty kind of guy. How is ampere a poor architecture? % improvement wise compared to previous gen ampere is up there with the best of them
Again, all the 6800 series was supposed to do was fill the product performance gap between 1080ti and 3070... that the card trades blows evenly, about, with the 3080 is just gravy (and it's cheaper). It's the BIG Navi 6900XT that's promised to be the nVidia killer, toppling the 3090the 6800 xt did not quite take the crown, came close.
My read is he's being intentionally and subtly contrarian because he believes it's easier to stand out and drive traffic that way. Not blatantly "say the opposite of reality for attention" but on the spectrum somewhere.lol.
Definitely a glass half empty kind of guy. How is ampere a poor architecture? % improvement wise compared to previous gen ampere is up there with the best of them
Have you actually read the reviews?
Radeon RX 6800 is faster than the GeForce RTX 3070.
In fact it wasn't even close.
Radeon RX 6700 XT is going to be AMD's intended competitor to the GeForce RTX 3070.
Have you actually read the reviews?
Radeon RX 6800 is faster than the GeForce RTX 3070.
In fact it wasn't even close.
Radeon RX 6700 XT is going to be AMD's intended competitor to the GeForce RTX 3070.
I wouldn't buy a 6800XT over a RTX 3080. Assuming you could find a RTX 3080. The 6800XT does perform similar to a 3080 at rasterization but is slower in Ray-Tracing. In fact some games that use Ray-Tracing are just broken on the 6800XT. 4K performs worse on the 6800XT than the 3080 due to slower VRAM. The 16GB of VRAM also doesn't seem to work for productivity applications. The $50 savings isn't worth it.
Radeon RX 6800 is faster that GeForce RTX 3070, sometimes by significant margin (and even beating GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3090).So far, only FPS Review. Yes, it is faster sometimes but otherwise they are equal from what I have seen so far.
Radeon RX 6800 is faster that GeForce RTX 3070, sometimes by significant margin (and even beating GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3090).
In the worst case scenario, Radeon RX 6800 is slightly faster GeForce RTX 3070.
So no, the performance is not "roughly equal".
https://www.techspot.com/review/2146-amd-radeon-6800/
The situation seems to reverse for 6800 vanilla vs the 3070.
3070 seems to be running into memory size limitations at 4K especially with Ray Tracing on (shadow of the Tomb Raider game for example)
At lower resolutions the high overclocking ability of 6800 gives it a leg-up
Right now DLSS is the only ace in Nvidia's hand. As soon as AMD comes up with its own equivalent the 6800 should match or better the 3070 in all scenarios, including future proofing with extra memory
It's a hard choice if you're gaming at 1440p: 6800xt looks a hair faster in FPS for most games, 3080 is better at RT. I suppose if you have a Gsync monitor, that means nV; if you have a Freesync monitor that does Gsync (like me), you're good to go with either.Nice to see AMD putting out a competitive card, consumer wins.
Though now I´m not sure what to choose, if I go AMD there´s the smart access memory feature when using Ryzen CPU, but NVIDIA has better performance when it comes to RT and DLSS.
Well, I suppose that either card will suit me fine as I intend to game at 1440p, but we will see how it goes in the next couple months.