Raja Koduri showing off the B0 stepping of the Xe-HPG DG2...3070 kiiller?
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thats raja's goofy face...I dunno about you guys, but I'm seeing a curvy burlesque dancer in that die shot.
thats raja's goofy face...
I know from their results in Enterprise their Ponte Vecchio GPU's are beasts that are giving the biggest from NVidia a run for its money in that space, so I am optimistic for the launch. But even if they launched a 3080 killer I doubt I would heavily consider it for their first-round Intel has this fun habit of launching cool things then letting it die a slow death after the first year, so even a 3070 killer is a stretch unless they are seriously undercutting it price wise. I mean Intel is a huge well-known brand for sure but as far as gaming GPU exploits go they might as well be a noname brand entry competitor because they have absolutely no historical data to back this up.3070 killer? HA! I'd love to be wrong, but I just don't see it. Maybe they can put out something to challenge the 3060 and even that could be hard to do. Even if raw performance can get there, I have absolutely zero confidence in Intel's drivers and even less confidence in their ability to market the damn thing or price it well.
NVidia and AMD have basically been relying on node improvements for any of their performance increases for the last while, yeah they add some new features but both of them at hitting brick walls on what monolithic designs can do without being something too risky to actually mass produce. MCM designs are going to be game-changers when they hit, and I think that the Unreal 5 engine is finally going to have the capabilities to use them, but since that is a year out I would say MCM's are 2 years at best.People doubting Intel can compete with mid range Nvidia parts.... forget just how much Nvidia has been pouching the dog the last few years. lol
AMD essentially did nothing on GPUs for damn near 3 years and have been able to keep pace. Nvidia hasn't exactly been racing against themselves. Intel competing with the 3070 on their high end golden die parts shouldn't be all that big a deal. I mean it is Intel so its very possible they can't... but really any company that pours $ in for a couple years at this point should basically be able to match Nvidia. Whatever actual lead they may have had at some point they pretty much pissed away.
I'm actually sort of excited by Intel entering the game. I'm a Linux user... I admit to using windows 10 for gaming. I have at times done away with windows, and at some point some game convinces me to update a windows drive.people won't care about their lack of experience in the dedicated GPU market if they can put out a solid product...Intel is a name people trust, just like Apple...if Apple released a new GPU next week people would buy it
Does Intel face the same supply constraints that the other GPU manufacturers are up against? I know they have their own fabs, but I don't remember reading where they were producing the GPUs and whether they were doing so in-house.This is the perfect market for Intel to launch into. As long as they don't release a giant turd, it will instantly sell out. Hell, a turd would probably sell out.
Competition is great for us, the consumer. I hope they do well and would love to see them gut punch both AMD and Nvidia.
Not to the same degree, Intel has their own supply and contracts and while they may be only getting 80% of their usual, their 80% is still 3x more than everybody else’s 100%Does Intel face the same supply constraints that the other GPU manufacturers are up against? I know they have their own fabs, but I don't remember reading where they were producing the GPUs and whether they were doing so in-house.
So you're saying there's a chance that normal people might get their hands on one?Not to the same degree, Intel has their own supply and contracts and while they may be only getting 80% of their usual, their 80% is still 3x more than everybody else’s 100%
I dunno about you guys, but I'm seeing a curvy burlesque dancer in that die shot.
Does Intel face the same supply constraints that the other GPU manufacturers are up against? I know they have their own fabs, but I don't remember reading where they were producing the GPUs and whether they were doing so in-house.
These cards will sell out no matter what if they can match a vega64 . Watch the dam Miners buy these up as wellthats raja's goofy face...
i hope this can add some competition but the whole 3070 level performance for a first release is a little unbelievable to me...
Depends entirely on how they structured their contract with TSMC. They might have tons of wafers, they might only have a small run. Knowing Intel, it isn't a small run, at all.Does Intel face the same supply constraints that the other GPU manufacturers are up against? I know they have their own fabs, but I don't remember reading where they were producing the GPUs and whether they were doing so in-house.
Well the 11700k, is about half the performance of a GT1030, so we are looking at 8x faster than that as a reference, which puts it a little ahead of the 3060TI.512 execution units? Compared to 32 execution units on the 11700K? So maybe 16 times as fast as the integrated graphics in a Rocket Lake chip. Hmmm... how fast is that? Anyone have a calculator?
Intel already stated that their order for their 180,000 6nm wafers was for a different project and their GPU solutions were only viable at the Intel 7nm or TSMC 5nm processes and smaller.Depends entirely on how they structured their contract with TSMC. They might have tons of wafers, they might only have a small run. Knowing Intel, it isn't a small run, at all.
The HPG series is being made on TSMC 7nm, possibly 6nm since that's essentially the same node with enhancements.
Doesnt really matter...they will sell out as fast as all the 6700/6800/6900 cards do and then will see them on ebay/amazon for double/triple the priceClear CMOS
3070 killer are some bold words. But will they deliver?