OutOfPhase
Supreme [H]ardness
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Waiting for Zen 2 numbers before buying anything.
Not buying if you don't actually need something right now is always good practice.
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Waiting for Zen 2 numbers before buying anything.
Yeah, 24 lanes that bottleneck into 4.
Was hoping for better overclocking. As expected though, I guess.
Kyle, do you think 5.0 all core with no AVX offset is doable on a H115i?
Not buying if you don't actually need something right now is always good practice.
Holy crap... Looks like I will have to delid my 9900K even though its soldered and then lap it down .20mm
This is a very good video talking about thermals of the 9900K
Skip to 11:15 .... the most important chart in the video.
No, DMI 3.0 also equals PCIE 3.0 x4.Intel uses DMI3 which equals PCIe3 x8 to the chipset. AMD uses 4 of the 24 PCIe lanes to connect to their chipset. So assuming you're running a GPU at x16: you get 4 extra lanes from the CPU on AMD but twice the thruput between the CPU and Chipset on Intel. Seems like a wash.
The problem I have with these reviews is that they ignore those of us who don't want to use a separate graphics card. I've always felt that these reviews should include an AMD G processor like the 2400G when comparing to an Intel cpu which includes graphics. A graphics to graphics comparison would be more helpful.
Good review guys, Glad to see the real numbers, and for me its a hard pass...They are right on the ragged edge to claim these ~16% performance numbers all while pushing that 60-70% price premium. I like bang for your buck, not throwing my money down on whatever they feed us.
One thing I will say is that the 9900k will keep your system more relevant than say the 2700X as GPU's get faster, so you should be able to squeeze another year out of a rig built with the 9900K vs the 2700X before bottlenecking the GPU too bad (yay frequency!)
But im still resolute in waiting for 7nm and PCIe 4.0, before upgrading...as I like to live on the 5-6 year upgrade path, i've also seen DDR5 articles popping up more, maybe thats where to jump in again. Great times to be a PC enthusiast again, reminds me of the 2003-2006 era. Thanks again guys, keep up the good work!
The problem I have with these reviews is that they ignore those of us who don't want to use a separate graphics card. I've always felt that these reviews should include an AMD G processor like the 2400G when comparing to an Intel cpu which includes graphics. A graphics to graphics comparison would be more helpful.
Damn, I see there are not i3 K models planned for 9-series. I would've loved a 5ghz i3.
i3-8350k is a fantastic 4k gaming cpu.
Who in God's name buys a $500 Cpu without a discreet graphics card?
I have a 4790k and I think I'm gonna wait for Zen2. I can say that the K series Haswell has definitely aged well.After seeing this, I'm thinking I'll replace my 4770K with a 9700K just for something to do to scratch that upgrade itch.
The upgrade-itis is getting stronger, coming from a 2600K still.
Either this or Zen2. Good thing I'm not in a hurry.
The fact that it only has a gimped number of PCIe lanes (16) takes this from a "must buy immediately" product to a "no interest under any circumstance" product.
I just can't bring myself to buy any CPU/motherboard combo with fewer than 40 lanes. I currently have 40 lanes on my i7-3930k and Asus P9X79 WS, and I actually use most of them.
Slot 1: GPU (16x)
Slot 2: No slot, and covered by GPU
Slot 3: Empty (if populated, slot 1 would drop to 8x)
Slot 4: 10G Base T NIC (4x)
Slot 5: Creative Titanium HD Sound Card (1x)
Slot 6: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO with PCIe Adapter(4x)
Slot 7: 400GB Intel SSD 750 (because it is has a boot ROM) (4x)
Well, I at least I use 29 of them.
Fook this! A 7820X and a sub $300 X299 motherboard are actually a better value! Anyone else thinks the same?
Probably why Intel didn't sample the 9700x for HardocpGiven the 9900Ks lackluster OC headroom, I’m starting to think the 9700K is the CPU to have this go-around, if you’re an overclocker.
You’ll get better performance with an easy all-core 5.0+ OC that the 9900K can’t touch. Seriously contemplating cancelling my preorder and going with a 9700K...
It's been like this since the 7900x or k or whatever it is. Was even worse deltas too like 60% more power for 30% gain, stock or oc even worse lol. Intel also busting tdp on server sockets too and getting smacked in performance. 14nm beyond 6 cores with Intel is looking very strung out..Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit, AMD beating Intel on performance per watt. 37 more watts at full thread load? Shit, the world is over
Benchmark comparisons to Sandybridge at 4.5g hz please?
I'll be curious what Intel will do if ryzen 3xxx brings even more cores to the desktop. How big can they make these chips without yields driving the price to 1k for a "desktop" processor?
If you want a 4.5 GHz non-HT 2500k Sandy Bridge benchmark, let me know which one and I'll be happy to oblige. The PassMark/CPU Mark score for that is low 8700s. A year and a half ago, Kyle had to borrow a 2600k to do a retrospective because the SB parts had all filtered away.
Parity @ 4k gaming, falls off cliff at 1080p
I remember many moons ago when cpus were exciting. You’d have to build a new rig every year because things were growing by leaps and bounds. Now it’s so meh. I want to build a new rig with a 9900k, not because it offers performance or any value to me over my 3 year old 6700k but simply because I want to relive those glory days. But even then it’s probably still not worth it. What depths have we fallen to?
Remember the microfracture stim report? Intel showed indium caused cracking on their initial designs so this is why it's thicker. Also higher thermal stress, these things don't run cool, large operation range... So I'm curious to see if any lifetime issues arise from thinning the die up.I wonder if they are going to rework the die thickness? And, or work on the heat issues.
Thanks for the offer, I have an i7-2700K and so would be more interested to see comparisons with a HT enabled Sandy Bridge.