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Saw an ad for their new TV's during a commercial break last night. I contacted the company that announced a DP 1.3 to HDMI 2.0 adapter at CES and they said it won't be available for a long time.
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We know that on paper Samsung perfectly supports. But due to various problems in the past this has to be verified by independent tests. As well as measuring the input lag and looking for presence of artefacts related to colors, fast movements and all kind of unpredictable things.I'm not sure if others have come across this already or not, but this is page 149 from the product manual for UN40JU6700 over at samsung's website. Below is the image of the page:...
Here's the link to the product manual itself, http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201503/20150320111059667/ENG-US_HMUATSCJ-1.302-0318.pdf
We know that on paper Samsung perfectly supports. But due to various problems in the past this has to be verified by independent tests. As well as measuring the input lag and looking for presence of artefacts related to colors, fast movements and all kind of unpredictable things.
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So the 48" JU6700 Curved supports 4:4:4 chroma ?
I wonder if this set is at Best Buy .........
temped to get 2 x 960's and this set
I went to my BB yesterday and they only had the JU9000 on display. One of the sales were quite upfront with me and basically told me they need to get rid of last year models before they are willing to put up the new models for display. He won't even give me a guessimate on when they will do put up the new models.
Wow, lot of decisions here if these can really do 4:4:4...40" versus 48", and, curved or non-curved for either size. Anyone actually see or try a curved display for PC use? Did it add or detract from a typical PC desktop experience?
Am thinking that a 48" curved model might make a tight desktop view distance of say 3 or 4 feet more tolerable
Show me square pixels and this will be purchased along with a couple 980s!
Ok found this .... the new sets have an average 40ms latency in game mode.
Source - https://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-h6700-ue-40-48-55-h6700-tv-review.10496
There are some user reports about the 34" flat vs. curved monitors and various reviews. In general people like curved more, perhaps except highe-end professional photographyc work.
I think it is better to have smaller display at closer range than bigger display at longer. So 40" should feel better.
This may seem OT, but it is related to me possibly purchasing the 40" 6700 to replace one of my monitors. What is the maximum length of HDMI 2.0 cable? I ask as I have my computer in my closet and would need a long cable run (40') to make this work (I have a single 980).
Ive spent hours looking for more info for the 48" curved for latency, etc
I currently have a Dell 30" U3011. I'm thinking of buying the flat JU7100. I cant decide over the 50" or 40" though. I web browse at my desk, game 5-6ft away with a controller hooked to my PC, and watch movies 5-6ft away. Is 50" too big for a desktop? Would it make the PPI too low?
If I decided to play games at 1080p do you think it would support 120hz? It's a 120hz TV, but I'm not sure.
I put an older 50" LCD on my desk today to simulate what a possible 48" would be like as a PC monitor, distance of approximately 4 feet. Currently use a Dell 30".
Basically that is one tall bitch. Like say for the top of your web browser, the tabs, looking allllllllll the way up there is definitely like a cure for "cell phone neck" lol.
But, it's amazing how I got used to it, after initially thinking "yeah no way, damn..." after an hour of forcing myself to see what it was like it wound up being ok.
Still though, I might wind up getting a desk arm for the 48" curved model if I do decide on it, simply to lower it another two inches by removing the stand.
They have the 40JU6700 in stock at Paul's TV (at least they're selling it on Amazon). Their retail locations are in Jordan's Furniture, which is right down the street from me. I can go in there and check out if they have them @ their B&M, but how would I test it for 4:4:4 support?
If one takes typical length there is no difference between the HDMI and HDMI 2.0. The problem is how far this 'no difference' reaches, maybe 40´is not yet a problem . It thus would not be unreasonable to try good cable of 40' length.
URL="https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/777438/geforce-900-series/gtx-980-and-samsung-4k-tv-hu8550-60hz-works-but-not-getting-4-4-4-full-rgb-output/"]Then you can just display test pic and see.
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The curved screen is definitely preferable to flat (to me anyway). I have my previous flat BL3200PT next to it and I much prefer the curved monitor (in fact for a monitor at 2 feet viewing distance the curve could have been much higher).
48inch is overkill for just general desktop applications but its fantastic for gaming. My eyes are at just over 2 feet from the monitor (bit more then arms length). The horizontal size is perfect. Vertically the monitor is a bit too tall (my eyes are about 3/5 from the bottom. I would prefer more like 3/4). But its manageable.
Now that Ziran posted helpful instructions to get the 4k 60Hz 444 chroma working on his JU750 I can confirm that the UN48JU6500 (flat version) is also 444 at 4k. I'm using GTX970 in SLI. I was just about to give up but once I renamed the HDMI 1 port to PC everything work just fine. Samsung should work on that...shouldn't need to rename the ports.
The flat monitor suites me fine and I bet will give better off axis viewing not to mention it is a good bit cheaper than the curved model. Having used a 40 inch seiki for a long time going to 48 inch is very nice and 60Hz rocks compared to the old seiki.
Now that Ziran posted helpful instructions to get the 4k 60Hz 444 chroma working on his JU750 I can confirm that the UN48JU6500 (flat version) is also 444 at 4k. I'm using GTX970 in SLI. I was just about to give up but once I renamed the HDMI 1 port to PC everything work just fine. Samsung should work on that...shouldn't need to rename the ports.
The flat monitor suites me fine and I bet will give better off axis viewing not to mention it is a good bit cheaper than the curved model. Having used a 40 inch seiki for a long time going to 48 inch is very nice and 60Hz rocks compared to the old seiki.
I have purchased UN48JU7500 (Version TS01) from Fry's in Austin today.
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I can confirm it does 4-4-4 chroma at 4k 60p.The TV suffers from the same shadowing issues as Benq BL3200PT so it is almost certainly a VA panel. Its not as bad as the BL3200PT. The picture #9 above shows the problem. The shadowing is vertical in this monitor (bl3200pt is horizontal). The background should be uniformly brown but you see two vertical lighter areas to either side of the purple. Those lighter areas move as you move the window with purple box.
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I did not notice any lag issues but I have not done any tests beyond playing some 3d games.
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The monitor has glossy mirror finish which is not so good. Expect to look at mirrored fatter version of yourself in dark scenes (this even with fairly low room lighting levels). After using it for a few hours this is definitely an issue
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The curved screen is definitely preferable to flat (to me anyway). I have my previous flat BL3200PT next to it and I much prefer the curved monitor (in fact for a monitor at 2 feet viewing distance the curve could have been much higher).
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48inch is overkill for just general desktop applications but its fantastic for gaming. My eyes are at just over 2 feet from the monitor (bit more then arms length). The horizontal size is perfect. Vertically the monitor is a bit too tall (my eyes are about 3/5 from the bottom. I would prefer more like 3/4). But its manageable.
For others asking "why 48" over 40" for desktop??" it's for many good reasons. Mainly because it can be pressed into TV duty in another room at that size a whole hell of a lot better than a smaller 40", as well as being much easier to sell at that larger more consumer-friendly size down the road. Countless other reasons also, but to each their own. 48" for me, thanks again to Ziran for the write up.
Logically it follows that 40" (+ Ziran mentions 48" too high) is optimal as monitor from the exclusive monitor point of view.
Now that Ziran posted helpful instructions to get the 4k 60Hz 444 chroma working on his JU750 I can confirm that the UN48JU6500 (flat version) is also 444 at 4k. Having used a 40 inch seiki for a long time going to 48 inch is very nice and 60Hz rocks compared to the old seiki.