IdiotInCharge
NVIDIA SHILL
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If they release Navi soon I'll also be replacing my Titan X at the same time to get off the nVidia platform.
Wouldn't that be more of a side-grade, at very best?
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If they release Navi soon I'll also be replacing my Titan X at the same time to get off the nVidia platform.
Wouldn't that be more of a side-grade, at very best?
If someone who has actually talked with MSI board reps and has heard directly from them that high end R3 will *not* be supported on their b350/b370 due to the *very* high power draw ( for the design two years ago), I'll go with that.
As far as I know the A320 is out of the realm of support entirely, the only place that sucks for me is that midget ASROCK system I just picked up the a300 "AMD NUC" I now dropped a 2200 into. Some B350 & X350 boards will be supported on an individual Manufacturer basis. That has been said since Ryzen 1 was first announced, tho. This is nothing new.
65w 3700x is really appealing. now they just need to add igpu for my htpc...
65w 3700x is really appealing. now they just need to add igpu for my htpc...
It does checkout the [H] AMD motherboard section the video is where Buildzoid explains all of the ins and outs for motherboards with the Ryzen 3000 series including compatibility and memory frequency.I'm going to wait for the 16Core release the 8 core and 4 core chiplets isn't what I want. I want the 8 and 8 core chiplets. It will happen. Note I am running 64GB of DDR4 on a 2700X(4300mhz) ram at 3000mhz. I have not heard if the new CPU can support more or not?
Yeah there isn't the power delivery on a320 for much to be honest.
I have an a320 in my son's PC and I'm gonna probably offer it in a buy something of mine and you get this board free solution
DDR5 for desktop not until 2021 imho. Zen3 will be either DDR4 only or hybrid. My 5 cents.I am going to wait until the dust settles that I know what kind of frequency the top end product has and I would like to stay on X370 as well so I can buy AM5 motherboard with DDR5 next year .
I'm going to replace my CH VI/[email protected] system with a 3900X. If they release Navi soon I'll also be replacing my Titan X at the same time to get off the nVidia platform.
Feel like I'll be on the same boat but replacing the 2080 with an AMD card and a bit delayed timeline wise. It's going to replace a Xeon 1270 and a 970 that were both second hand from a friend, so anything in the new line of cpus will be a nice upgrade. This system will probably make it's way to my nephews in it's entirety if I'm feeling cheap, or they're getting a R5 3600, whatever comes in just below it, or a used R7 2xxx if I find a good deal. Depends how the budget works out in the end.X570 175 - 240 USD Mobo.
2x16Gb DDR4 3000-3200
Ryzen 3700X
eVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra.
Intel 660p 2Tb nvme
Is my current planned build for August.
It'd be cool to see how 3900x ran on your CH6 vs your next motherboard.
Count me in that group. It will be interesting to see how windows handles assigning threads across chiplets.I'm one of those 'concerned'; I realize that AMD would have taken steps to mitigate any issues, but so far the numbers they have shown have come from applications that wouldn't highlight potential deltas due to separating the memory controller from the cores.
Se we'll see!
I agree. So it makes me think that there will be a reason. 70% higher TDP for 100MHz? Does not seem logical at all.yup the 3700x seems to be the best bang for the buck. The 3800x only offers .100 mhz more boost clock for $70 more ? Plus you have a much higher TDP. 8c/16thread 65w tdp pretty amazing !
I agree. So it makes me think that there will be a reason. 70% higher TDP for 100MHz? Does not seem logical at all.
I would guess that it will be the chip with some OC headroom. More cores will take that advantage away. It will be the one to get to or close to 5GHz. I am guessing this is the only highly binned sku. The peak of all the single chiplet CPU's will be 3800x's.
Just a guess. We will find out soon enough.
Ya okay. I am not seeing you offer a better reason for that much power increase for 100MHz?You can have certain aspects of binning, there are prolly more dies that will work on higher voltage given a certain frequency range and that part is suited for the higher TDP it does not have to work better for overclocking.
We will have to see how good the 7nm process is for overclocking (65W vs 105W).
Count me in that group. It will be interesting to see how windows handles assigning threads across chiplets.
My chief concern is always single thread performance. The apps I care about are multithreaded to various degrees but are ultimately limited by the main thread on CPU zero. This is where I get worried about thread synchronization latency issues between different chiplets.
Threadripper already runs chiplets i.e. 2 separate dies or more. Works fine.
Ya okay. I am not seeing you offer a better reason for that much power increase for 100MHz?
So in your opinion why 70%+ more power for a 100MHz turbo? What's you think is happening?
I'm wondering if we should look at this not as power draw directly. Aside from AMD's traditionally wacky TPD numbers, the extra TDP rating may be to allow for higher sustained boost clocks.
What we don't know is if the lower part will be TDP limited, or if this SKU separation is mostly for OEMs. It may be that given the same enthusiast-grade power delivery and cooling, the parts could produce very similar results.
This is the route I intend on taking in a few months.just built a great x470 with 2700x , love it . Maybe a vidcard from AMD if the price is right
I will likely keep my CH6 when I upgrade. However I am leaning more to the 3800X or 3700X. Alot will depend on reviews tho there is a small chance I will get the 3900X.
AMD stays alot closer to stated TDP then Intel anymore at one time that was not true but it is now. The 9900K is one of the biggest offenders of going way past the stated TDP, as a 95 watt chip should not be drawing 165 watts or so.
Buildzoid did a video on what he thinks should be compatible with 12 and 16 core Ryzen 2 based on the VRM's and the CHVI's look promising.
Don't just use the halo part to make your point, if you're saying 'AMD' and 'Intel'.
I'm wondering if we should look at this not as power draw directly. Aside from AMD's traditionally wacky TPD numbers, the extra TDP rating may be to allow for higher sustained boost clocks.
What we don't know is if the lower part will be TDP limited, or if this SKU separation is mostly for OEMs. It may be that given the same enthusiast-grade power delivery and cooling, the parts could produce very similar results.
Fine the 8700K is 95 watts as well and it hits 145 watts or so which is way beyond TDP. It's simple to compete Intel has factory overclocked their chips in gross violation of their TDP, AMD did the same thing with Bulldozer to try to keep up. It's one thing to go a bit past the TDP but Intel right now is shattering their TDP ratings. Which is obvious when you see a 7700K is 91 watts TDP and runs at 95 watts TDP on average and the 7700K was a halo chip at one time.