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Sure, lacking imagination ( and a healthy sense of sanity preservation ) , it's not that hard.To be honest it's not that hard. Go with a unifi security gateway and switch with there APs. Set and forget. MY unifi AP gear just works no questions asked. They regularly have 6 plus months of up time till I reboot them to install software
nothing is perfect for sure. I have heard of the iOS issue. I have about 15 wireless devices from a wife range of manufacturers and everything is bullet proof for me. My 2 in wall ac units work great and because my house was wired only with 2 drops (for phones) this was the best I could do. I get full coverage in my 2500 sqft houseI tried to use an AP-AC-Pro for almost a year, and it was not so “set-and-forget”. The default settings don’t even work properly with iOS devices (something to do with DTIM https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi...onnectivity-loss-with-UAP-AC-PRO/td-p/1431847) and I experienced all sorts of other flakiness, especially around firmware updates and resetting the device. I ended up ditching the Unifi and going back to my cheap TP-Link AP.
Based on my experience with the UAP, I will never purchase another Uniquiti AP. I’m happy with my E-RX though.
+1 It actually solved issues with my wife's older 6s switching from a Asus AC87 to the AC-HD, I haven't had any issues with any of the iOS devices I own/use or my guests that join up.nothing is perfect for sure. I have heard of the iOS issue. I have about 15 wireless devices from a wife range of manufacturers and everything is bullet proof for me. My 2 in wall ac units work great and because my house was wired only with 2 drops (for phones) this was the best I could do. I get full coverage in my 2500 sqft house
Of course, I wanted the 4x4 radios and wave 2 because....definitely needed that .The AP-HD is a completely different model, but just out of interest, did you use separate SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz radios?
And the fact that having multiple AP’s with decent coverage from 2 AP’s without seamless roaming just plain doesn’t work.Just to be clear, he ran into issues because he overcomplicated the shit out of his network and messed with things he didn’t understand.
wierd have never had any issues with roaming in my 2 unifi APs. Single set of 5ghz and 2.4ghz ssids. Granted you are not alone in this. Unfi gear can be very hit and miss for some people.And the fact that having multiple AP’s with decent coverage from 2 AP’s without seamless roaming just plain doesn’t work.
The lack of real seamless roaming on UniFi is the #1 reason I installed 10 unifi wifi networks and then replaced them with open-mesh or mikrotik setups.
it's more smb gear. I use it at my work because my boss needed affordable wireless with a single way manage everything, radius support, vlan support and guest wifi portal. For it fit bill for way cheaper then anything else and it just works.It's because no one that works with enterprise gear considers UniFi 'enterprise' grade. Prosumer at best
I run 3 mesh APs in wired setup and absolutely love them. Have a USG pro as well but it's off as I'm testing PFsense right now.
So glad I live in a small apartment and the 5g wi-fi in the router does the whole apartment and then some. No need for mesh here!
I'm considering testing PFSense...
What gets me is that I'm not up for putting a desktop box 'on the edge'; I have it running in a VM right now to play with it, and that's how I'd want to use it, but I'm not sure how I could do that while running the WAN through the Edgerouter still and not bork things up on the network proper.
Pick up a dual gigabit network card for whatever you have your VM running on.
The current port becomes management, then the add-on card becomes dedicated extranet and intranet connection for the VM, just make sure you run it in a bridge and dont block anything essentially.
I'm considering testing PFSense...
What gets me is that I'm not up for putting a desktop box 'on the edge'; I have it running in a VM right now to play with it, and that's how I'd want to use it, but I'm not sure how I could do that while running the WAN through the Edgerouter still and not bork things up on the network proper.
Well a router is just software ultimately. Even expensive ass Chisco crap is just overpriced hardware with software doing all the work. A desktop PC with PFsense is probably and surprisingly more secure than Cisco or juniper etc...better at spam than Barricuda and the list goes on. In fact after using PFsense dir litearally like 2 weeks now I am so in love with the control I have over every literal aspect of my setup that I am about to drop 600 on a Xeon E3 Skylake and ECC eam and a supermicro 1u case and mobo. I have my whole home 100% on express VPN at the router level. All my Rokus are going out my comcast and everything else desktop servers and phones thru expressVPNs openVpn connection 24/7. Sorry for typos.
Just to correct you, one of the MAIN reasons to use Cisco routers is for their HARDWARE ASICS. To be able to support full line speed L3 across all of it's interfaces while supporting all the major peering protocols is no small feet... especially when you are talking about high throughput. The bulk of prosumer grade hardware is all oversubscribed.. even some Cisco hardware is oversubscribed, so you need to know your ASICs and backplanes and how much data throughput you are expecting across.
That said, yes, Cisco definitely charges a premium, and I would agree they overcharge as well, but there are legitimate reasons many many many companies stick with them.
I tried to use an AP-AC-Pro for almost a year, and it was not so “set-and-forget”. The default settings don’t even work properly with iOS devices (something to do with DTIM https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi...onnectivity-loss-with-UAP-AC-PRO/td-p/1431847) and I experienced all sorts of other flakiness, especially around firmware updates and resetting the device. I ended up ditching the Unifi and going back to my cheap TP-Link AP.
Based on my experience with the UAP, I will never purchase another Uniquiti AP. I’m happy with my E-RX though.
I have had great luck with a single saucer but it doesn't play nicely with multiple AP's.
I didn't play with it at all honestly I became intrigued by "mesh" when in reality my previous setup was probably better if I'd have just tinkered with it a bit.When using these 'enterprise' devices, and you may very well already be aware of this, you do have to play with transmit strength; it's simply not 'fire and forget', and generally cannot be, because every installation is unique.
If you haven't looked into it already, I'll add that as a suggestion with the saucers; once you keep them from transmitting further than clients can transmit back service tends to stabilize.
I didn't play with it at all honestly I became intrigued by "mesh" when in reality my previous setup was probably better if I'd have just tinkered with it a bit.
I'm presently on google wifi for the mesh with both units hard wired. I'm probably going to have to run more cables. This weekend I ran a cable to my TV to get the stuff around that wired. Next big one is the kids desk which has 3 desktops.I like the simplicity of mesh; it really is a 'fire-and-forget' solution to extending coverage, but it also comes with limitations. Mainly those surround its method of operation, and that is to use extra wifi channels as uplinks. This works pretty well for getting connectivity, but when the broadcast domain gets crowded and demand for bandwidth per-client increases, you're going to see the stress realized as reduced performance.
If that's where you're at, running PoE cables to a few saucers can quickly clear things up supposing you take the time to get their configurations situated. You lose the extra spectrum crowding from the mesh links so you gain some spectrum back, and you can play with channels and such on each so that they don't crowd on their perimeters (if they were).
I'm presently on google wifi for the mesh with both units hard wired. I'm probably going to have to run more cables. This weekend I ran a cable to my TV to get the stuff around that wired. Next big one is the kids desk which has 3 desktops.
Question to you guys that have issues with WiFi: is it just the number of clients that require WiFi mesh/prosumer gear that causes it?
I have a ~2700 sqft. Home on .25 acres in a subdivision and can get a signal anywhere on my property. Basement, backyard, front yard, garage, master bathroom... Everywhere. Have a Buffalo N600 router that came with (branded) DD-WRT. I like it, but it's nothing special. But, it's just me and my wife in the house.
I always feel like I'm missing something when this topic comes up. Sure, it'd be nice to have more consistent bandwidth I guess but that's why I'll be running ethernet through the house. Never had so little bandwidth that I couldn't watch movies or something over WiFi...
Gotcha. I can do almost all of that with DD-WRT but I remember the guest network on another subnet being done with IP table commands and that was less than fun figuring out... I'll check out the prosumer stuff when the router goes if it makes guest network management easier with a UI. Thanks!This may seem odd but prosumer gear isn't any better when it comes to performance for the most part. The benefit comes with configurability you get. You can setup a custom guest portal. Put all your IOT devices into their own VLAN and firewall them off from your main network. Remote management. Custom VPN. In my case, unless I wanted to use the ISP's router I needed to enable multicasting and igmp proxy to get my IPTV working because nothing else would work for me (went through 3 different brands). Some routers do offer these things but the options available are generally much less.