Majeztik12
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Are there going to be any futher proc releases for this series? Is the FX57 & FX-60 the last bit of s939 goodness???
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Well not that long, AM3 is due in about 9 months (I think)Serge84 said:It was replaced by the better socket because of DDR2, greater AMP capabilities, and compatibility for better cpu desines... giving a single socket a longer future.
i would expect quite a bit longer, since i don't see ddr3 being ready in 9 months. ddr3 socket comes AFTER the introduction of ddr3 memory, just as AM2 came after ddr2 was around for a bit.newls1 said:Well not that long, AM3 is due in about 9 months (I think)
Tutelary said:I wish I had an fx60 and was worried about upgrading again already.
hell i got a whole shopping list...QFT, if you have that much money, buy me a Video card, my X800XL is on its last leg.
Kangg said:There is supposed to be an Athlon 64 5200 Socket 939 part coming out Q1 of 07 clocked @ 3.0 GHZ According to My AMD rep at work.
I'll eat my underwear on streaming webcam if that comes out for socket 939..Kangg said:There is supposed to be an Athlon 64 5200 Socket 939 part coming out Q1 of 07 clocked @ 3.0 GHZ According to My AMD rep at work.
newls1 said:Well not that long, AM3 is due in about 9 months (I think)
joemama said:I'll eat my underwear on streaming webcam if that comes out for socket 939..
and then rush out and buy one and say "to hell" with my Conroe plans.
Met-AL said:...but AM3 CPU's will work in AM2 sockets. AM3 CPU's contain both a DDR2 and DDR3 controller.
Looks over at his socket A cpu - I know where they goharpoon said:I honestly doubt it. S939 is EOL as of Q4 06. It's dead, finished, gone to heaven, whatever.
joemama said:I'll eat my underwear on streaming webcam if that comes out for socket 939..
and then rush out and buy one and say "to hell" with my Conroe plans.
GamePC said:The Final Word
As you can tell by the previous eleven pages, the Core 2 Duo E6600 is in our opinion, one of the best processors (if not the best) which Intel has released in the past five years. The Core 2 Duo E6600 mixes together excellent performance at stock clock speeds, low power consumption, a robust feature set and lots of overclocking potential all at a very tolerable price point. These are the kind of processors we should expect from a company with as much manpower and engineering knowledge as Intel has. If there was any doubt to the validity of the Core 2 architecture, our tests should clear those up. Across the board, the Core 2 Duo E6600 is a winner.
At this point in time, there is no processor on the market which has such an excellent price to performance ratio compared to the E6600. In terms of raw performance, the E6600 is certainly beatable, but only by the more expensive Core 2 Duo E6700 and Core 2 Extreme X6800 processors, which are both still nearly non-existent on the market today. AMDs best processor, even when overclocked, still struggles to compete with Intels mid-range Core 2 Duo processor. The Core 2 Duo E6600 can deliver roughly the same performance as the Athlon64 FX-62 processor while costing roughly half as much, requiring 1/3rd less power, and remaining far more overclockable.
This certainly leaves AMD in a tough spot. Even their newly launched Socket-AM2 processor lineup is getting beat in terms of performance and price, and even after their massive price drops, enthusiasts are still flocking towards Intel. These are the same enthusiasts who were so adamant about using AMD products in their prior systems, and now were seeing a similar move towards Intel. AMD could drop prices even further, but this is unlikely to help much. AMD needs to provide a faster product to the market as soon as possible. With no such product in sight until the end of the year (or perhaps later), its Intels market to take at this point. As fast as they can pump out these Core 2 Duo products, its likely that they will be sold.
Unfortunately, supplies of Core 2 Duo E6600s are slim right now, and the chips which do make it to market are being tagged with hefty premiums. Even with these premiums, the E6600 is still the best bang-for-the-buck chip on the market. Hopefully Intel will work to remedy these stock issues over the coming weeks and prices will drop back down to sub-$400 levels. We still have the Core 2 Duo E6700 and Extreme X6800 on the way, which no doubt will extend Intels performance lead even further. Id imagine that its a good time to be on the blue team, right about now.
Yashu said:What does that have to do with socket 939?
Yashu said:What does that have to do with socket 939?
I'll eat my underwear on streaming webcam if that comes out for socket 939..
and then rush out and buy one and say "to hell" with my Conroe plans.
HighTest said:It was inevitable that some Intel fan would troll this thread. It would have only been relevant if they could show how you could place a Conroe processor into a socket 939 motherboard and have it work in a stable manner.
Donnie27 said:Reality bites uh?
HighTest said:An then I smack it with a newspaper.
While I've been aware of Conroe's performance for quite some time, I just purchased a little while ago an X2 3800+ for my system. One main reason is that nothing else in my system needed to be repurchased, just the proc. What the GamePC article misses when talking about price/performance is the upgrader. The article is based on purchasing a new system from scratch and not reusing any of the existing components. To go to Core 2 Duo or Extreme, I'd need the new proc, motherboard and memory. That reduces it's price/performance ratio for me due to the additional outlay of cash. As it stands, I'll eventually need to replace the whole rig anyways and can go Core 2 or K8L at that time and to who ever reigns supreme for price/performace at that point.
As the OP was wondering, what was the next possible proc for the 939 roadmap. It sure as heck aint the Conroe. Again, not to malign the performance capabilities of the Conroe or even if it makes since to upgrade to another 939 process, just to answer the OP's question in this thread. If you want to add to the 100's of Conroe versus AMD threads, start a new one and we can debate it there (although I'll agree that it's the top performer at this time).
Don't know if you were aware, but there are motherboards for Core 2 Duo that support DDR400 (and faster) memory and AGP. These cost as little as $40.To go to Core 2 Duo or Extreme, I'd need the new proc, motherboard and memory. That reduces it's price/performance ratio for me due to the additional outlay of cash.
Simple fact that even at 3GHz, the reason for the link, it'd still get its ass handed to it.
but there are motherboards for Core 2 Duo that support DDR400 (and faster) memory and AGP. These cost as little as $40.
Yashu said:Yawn, Not in 64bit apps... and 64bit is definately the future. AMD still holds strong in the 64bit world. Besides that, a 3ghz x2 is no slouch.
These boards with ULI chipsets would not be a good investment. the problems are many, and nvidia (owner of ULI) does not seem interested in fixing the integrated drivers (AGP accel. does not even work on 64bit systems yet), or anything else. I would not put money into something ULI based until it was more clear what nvidia intends to do with them.
So you save a bit on the motherbaord, but must spend many many hours just getting everything working right... how much is your time worth?
My time is worth enough where it would be worth upgrading rather then scrapping everything.
(AGP accel. does not even work on 64bit systems yet)
Yashu said:I am going to quote myself here since you didn't read everything the first time.
This is a fully documented problem with windows XP x64, there is no working AGP acceleration as of yet. The AGP slot works as a 66mhz PCI slot ONLY. The fact that it is taking this long makes me not want to trust them with vista support.
Please don't tell someone they are full of it without first checking the facts.
Yashu said:Yawn, Not in 64bit apps... and 64bit is definately the future. AMD still holds strong in the 64bit world. Besides that, a 3ghz x2 is no slouch.
Yashu said:These boards with ULI chipsets would not be a good investment. the problems are many, and nvidia (owner of ULI) does not seem interested in fixing the integrated drivers (AGP accel. does not even work on 64bit systems yet), or anything else. I would not put money into something ULI based until it was more clear what nvidia intends to do with them.
Yashu said:So you save a bit on the motherbaord, but must spend many many hours just getting everything working right... how much is your time worth?
My time is worth enough where it would be worth upgrading rather then scrapping everything.
KenAF said:Don't know if you were aware, but there are motherboards for Core 2 Duo that support DDR400 (and faster) memory and AGP. These cost as little as $40.
That said, I am still holding out hope that AMD will price its processors more competitively. I have an Opteron 146 overclocked @ 2.4Ghz with DDR500, and I would like to upgrade to an X2 4800. But at $300, the X2 4800 just isn't competitive, particularly when overclocked $180 Core2 Duos with stock voltage are outperforming it by 20+%. I would like to see AMD drop the X2 4800 to the $180-$200 range.
Hopefully Intel's introduction of quad core processors on October 30 will encourage AMD to drop its prices to realistic levels.
It kicks the FX-62's ass in 64bit apps as well.
Met-AL said:How come you guys have to come over here and crap on a thread about the future of S939 with all this Conroe stuff and then continue to argue it over and over?
Yea, we ALL know about Conroe. Still the the thread is about S939.