Alzayani
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How much the case fully packaged weight (5 KG?) , it's seems to me it will be very costly to ship.
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How much the case fully packaged weight (5 KG?) , it's seems to me it will be very costly to ship.
Interesting. Once you receive your Sentry it'll be interesting to see if this works. (you did order a sentry right?) There's definitely no reason you can't mod the case to make the jack fit. That's part of the beauty of steel, it's strong as hell even if you start drilling holes. In fact I think the Zaber team would be disappointed if we didn't tinker with it a little. It will be interesting to see what everyone does to their Sentries. I'll be very interested if someone comes up with a nice, clean front panel audio mod.While we all are waiting for the Sentry, I want to add a few words about sound in this case. I suppose that a majority of builders will use it for gaming with headphones and without external sound card, but the case hasn't a front audio panel. It's not a big deal, you will say, every mobo has a green headphone output on a rear panel. Yes, it has, but this output is directly connected to audio controller and it can't provide enough current for low impedance loads. And I'm not talking about audiophile stuff like midrange colorations; it's obvious to almost every listener that sound from rear green output is pathetic due to overload of controller. Thus there is a special operational amplifier for headphones in mid and high range mobos which is able to give a HiFi sound quality without external sound card. The issue is this amplifier directly connects to a header for front audio panel.
My asus z170i pro gaming mobo is shown in the figure 1, it has audio controller Realtek ALC1150, operational amplifier RC4580 from Texas Instruments and decoupling capacitor Nichicon SW 100uF 16V (yes, just one cap for ground wire). Components are good enough to achieve nice sound quality but only if headphones connected through the header for front audio panel (pin definition is shown in the figure 2). So I think to instal aditional jack socket at the sentry back panel (and maybe replace op amp to OPA 2134 and cap to Nichicon FG) because sound difference is significant.
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Interesting. Once you receive your Sentry it'll be interesting to see if this works. (you did order a sentry right?) There's definitely no reason you can't mod the case to make the jack fit. That's part of the beauty of steel, it's strong as hell even if you start drilling holes. In fact I think the Zaber team would be disappointed if we didn't tinker with it a little. It will be interesting to see what everyone does to their Sentries. I'll be very interested if someone comes up with a nice, clean front panel audio mod.
The other option, for those who don't have the drive to mod, a USB headset is probably an option. Are there any of them that actually deliver decent sound?
It's creepy and hilarious at the same timeYou would have your own USB type A to audio jack connector
With your approach to putting the jack at the back, you could also think about incorporating the jack into the vertical stand somehow. You could have the jack port you want to use on the side of the case where the vertical stand attaches and a jack attached to the vertical stand so it connects while mounting. how would you place the connectors on the vertical stand is just aesthetics at this point![]()
Noteworthy drive fitting - you can mount single 3.5" drive with ONE screw
Which GTX 1080 would be the optimal choice for this case? The go-to seems to be Founders Edition, but how does this card compare to MSI Aero OC for example, or even an open-air card? The tests in the first post seems to indicate that an open-air card wouldn't be that bad either.
Also, does anyone in here have experience with the quality of the cooltek LP53. There seems to be mixed opinions and i can't decided if i should go for Asus Strix z270i + NH-L9i instead of maybe the MSI board.
And at last i want to thank you for making this case a reality. Awesome design and size, i'm looking forward to getting mine.
Which GTX 1080 would be the optimal choice for this case? The go-to seems to be Founders Edition, but how does this card compare to MSI Aero OC for example, or even an open-air card? The tests in the first post seems to indicate that an open-air card wouldn't be that bad either.
While we all are waiting for the Sentry, I want to add a few words about sound in this case. I suppose that a majority of builders will use it for gaming with headphones and without external sound card, but the case hasn't a front audio panel. It's not a big deal, you will say, every mobo has a green headphone output on a rear panel. Yes, it has, but this output is directly connected to audio controller and it can't provide enough current for low impedance loads. And I'm not talking about audiophile stuff like midrange colorations; it's obvious to almost every listener that sound from rear green output is pathetic due to overload of controller. Thus there is a special operational amplifier for headphones in mid and high range mobos which is able to give a HiFi sound quality without external sound card. The issue is this amplifier directly connects to a header for front audio panel.
My asus z170i pro gaming mobo is shown in the figure 1, it has audio controller Realtek ALC1150, operational amplifier RC4580 from Texas Instruments and decoupling capacitor Nichicon SW 100uF 16V (yes, just one cap for ground wire). Components are good enough to achieve nice sound quality but only if headphones connected through the header for front audio panel (pin definition is shown in the figure 2). So I think to instal aditional jack socket at the sentry back panel (and maybe replace op amp to OPA 2134 and cap to Nichicon FG) because sound difference is significant.
As someone else with Beyerdynamic DT770Pro cans (80ohm)... they are very sensitive to output impedance and you're going to get interference from running any kind of unshielded DIY audio jack setup inside a tightly packed metal case with a short distance between the PSU and everything else. You should really just be using an optical out to portable DAC. My FiiO E17 solves the amping, output impedance, and interference issues all in one tiny device and you can get them for what, 50-100 USD? I was happy with myself later anyways when I bumped up to planar magnetic HE400S cans... any serious headphones are going to take more juice than most of the "premium" motherboards can output.
For all this audio stuff can't you use a usb audio adapter?
Kind of what I was thinking too. USB DACs like the E10K or the Fulla (for a little more $$) are also great and relatively inexpensive solutions.
why did they leave out M.2 !!! I think it is a must-have-item in 2017New mITX Motherboard from Gigabyte:
Has wifi. Doesn't seem to have m.2.
Surely I can but why? I've already paid for good mobo with normal for me sound circuit. Why I should buy something with the same or just a little better parameters and plug it into my sentry case?
Isn't there something about Ryzen about it supporting less PCIE lanes or something? Basically the resource that everything takes up... I forget what it's called. <_<
New mITX Motherboard from Gigabyte:
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Has wifi. Doesn't seem to have m.2.
At least is made by a more widely known company. Good luck with your Ryzen processors guys!New mITX Motherboard from Gigabyte:
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Has wifi. Doesn't seem to have m.2.
Every week we are making one big update. All updates we are sending through Indiegogo mailing system and also we are posting them here. We are still making many orders for necessary parts, and it would be problematic making updates after every part will come, because some email providers would ban indiegogo for sending so many newsletters. Maybe we make them too detailed, but we want to give as many information as we can. All updates are posted together on indiegogo website and in previous posts in this topic. Next big update will be posted again on Saturday.Good evening I wanted to know if there are updates on the production / packing / shipping and if you can have its data will be sent when the first sentry and it would be interesting to have a list of the first batch![]()
I like how its panels are made - that's quite the craftsmanship. It's a shame that the vertical stand doesn't match this unique bulky aesthetic.Bitphonix Portal case just like the sentry takes inspiration from portal.
Kabey Lake, 1080 ti and now Ryzen within just over two months of each other? I'd give the manufactures some slack.