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With Alder Lake eating its lunch the 5600x should go to sub $200 and the 5800x should go to the $250-$280 range. 5900x should go to sub $400 and 5950x should go to the $500-$550 range. The CPUs came out a year ago and should be getting replaced fairly soon. Time to clear out stock on what's left.That's a pretty good deal right there. Arguably should have been the launch price though.
undervolting + 280mm AIO, hopefully will be sufficient. I remember how bad Ryzen 3600 was to cool, I'm sure this is that much worse.Just be warned the 5800x runs quite hot due to all 8 cores being on a single chiplet and the voltage is quite aggressive to make stock clocks. It nearly necessitates undervolting in my experience.
The 5800x is a volcano compared to the 3600. I'm on a 280mm AIO in a Corsair 650d and need to undervolt to 1.34v peak just to keep it under 80c. It really shouldn't exist, IMO, at least at the stock voltage and speeds.undervolting + 280mm AIO, hopefully will be sufficient. I remember how bad Ryzen 3600 was to cool, I'm sure this is that much worse.
Yikes, just yikes. It's not even a spectacularly power-hungry CPU from what I can tell, it's just thermal transfer limits due to the density-which is scarier in a way because one can't overcome that easily by just adding more rad + fans. Wish me luckThe 5800x is a volcano compared to the 3600. I'm on a 280mm AIO in a Corsair 650d and need to undervolt to 1.34v peak just to keep it under 80c. It really shouldn't exist, IMO, at least at the stock voltage and speeds.
You'll likely be ok. It's a good chip, it just needs proper cooling and undervolting. I'm running at 4.7ghz and 1.31v.Yikes, just yikes. It's not even a spectacularly power-hungry CPU from what I can tell, it's just thermal transfer limits due to the density-which is scarier in a way because one can't overcome that easily by just adding more rad + fans. Wish me luck
Plus they binned the best chiplets for the 5950 and epyc CPUs. The 5800x has the lowest quality chiplets that have full 8-core functionality. It's still a good CPU, but it should have always been cheaper.You'll likely be ok. It's a good chip, it just needs proper cooling and undervolting. I'm running at 4.7ghz and 1.31v.
Exactly. Essentially, what happened with the 5800x is AMD needed to fill the gap between the 5600x and 5900x. But to make margins, they needed to cram two extra cores into a single chiplet (instead of the two in the 5900x), and they needed to make the clocks higher than a 5600x to beat that chip's per-core stock performance. So, you get a hot CPU that undervolts.
Alderlake has $500 motherboards and significantly more expensive DDR5. AMD doesn’t have to put their chips on sale, because Intel did it for them with their new total system price comparison.With Alder Lake eating its lunch the 5600x should go to sub $200 and the 5800x should go to the $250-$280 range. 5900x should go to sub $400 and 5950x should go to the $500-$550 range. The CPUs came out a year ago and should be getting replaced fairly soon. Time to clear out stock on what's left.
The 3d stacked cache versions should probably only be mildly more expensive than those prices.
$600 for me lol, definitely a bit obscene and the most I’ve ever spent on a mobo. Previous most expensive was my X58 classified at like $450.Alderlake has $500 motherboards and significantly more expensive DDR5. AMD doesn’t have to put their chips on sale, because Intel did it for them with their new total system price comparison.
Alderlake has $500 motherboards and significantly more expensive DDR5. AMD doesn’t have to put their chips on sale, because Intel did it for them with their new total system price comparison.
If I had a 5900x I’d be sticking firm too.While I agree with ddr5, they do have decent z690 boards that will handle 12900k for far less than that.
I'll wait for some additional reviews on the lower tier/mid tier board. If I didn't have a 5900x, I would without a doubt be buying a 12700 or 12900k. At this point probably not. Some of that is due to the fact I have already have 64gb of ddr4 b-die memory.
Yeah I'm thinking that's what I may do with my 3700x currently in my Prime x470-Pro.I have 2700x on an x570 motherboard. These lower prices are tempting me but I think I’ll hold out for the final AMD chips on Am4 after the holidays.
Could always wait until Q1 2022 when Zen 3D comes out. Since that will be the last CPU for the AM4 chipset, might as well go all out.I have 2700x on an x570 motherboard. These lower prices are tempting me but I think I’ll hold out for the final AMD chips on Am4 after the holidays.