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QuakeCon said:I'm looking to run a netbus on the computers at work for security purposes and was wondering what steps I would have to go through to completely hide them. Any pointers? Also, what are some good netbus applications?
First and formost...you work for spammers. I don't know if you know that, but that's what telemarketers do. They spam, over the telephone ( although, surprisingly, there is a use for them. When I've had a rough day at work and need to yell at someone, I just go home and wait for one of these slime balls to call me. Most of them can't hang up the phone, so they have to listen and take it. You have no idea how theraputic that is. ).QuakeCon said:I am the security at work. It's a small telemarketing firm and I'm new to the field. I apologize for phrasing the term, what is the correct term?
Thanks!
QuakeCon said:I'm looking to run a netbus on the computers at work for security purposes and was wondering what steps I would have to go through to completely hide them. Any pointers? Also, what are some good netbus applications?
Actually, it's more accurate to say they need fear. The very same fear that keeps them from misusing office equipment. Fear of being fired, or in some cases, fear of others finding out what they did with the office equipment ( see: blackmail ).Boscoh said:You're missing the point here.
Part of what makes employees follow the rules is that they know they're being held accountable for their actions. They need to see that icon, they need to know you're watching them.
The best idea. Never try with technology that can be done with policy. First of all; you aren't there to baby sit anybody. They should be all adults, or close enough that it doesn't matter. Treat them as such.boscoh said:What you need is an Acceptable Use Policy for your computer equipment and networks. Google for them, and I think SANS has an example one. Let the employees know they're going to be monitored, and the acceptable use policy should state the measures that will be taken if they break the rules in the AUP (which should include trying to circumvent any monitoring). Then, if they disable VNC or try to go around anything else you put in place, have their supervisors write them up. If they keep it up, fire 'em.
Shit, these are just many of the perks of my job.boscoh said:If you're the network administrator, you need to make it known that you are not to be screwed with. Otherwise they will walk all over you. This is not an easy business. You aren't there to be their friend, you're there to keep up the computers and the infrastructure they use to get business done. Sometimes making sure they use it to get business done means pissing off a few people along the way.
hahaSurrea| said:lol...
you want to run "a netbus"
haaahahaaaha...
this board should have a humor section =)
god damn it. I missed a chance at an obvious joke.Surrea| said:lol...
you want to run "a netbus"
Boscoh said:If you're the network administrator, you need to make it known that you are not to be screwed with. Otherwise they will walk all over you. This is not an easy business. You aren't there to be their friend, you're there to keep up the computers and the infrastructure they use to get business done. Sometimes making sure they use it to get business done means pissing off a few people along the way.
RagingSamster said:Amen, The more trust I have with my customers the more I can become an integral part of their business plan. I'm not a cop, I can give a "word to the wise" though, and that usually fixes any issues that come up without the need to instill fear.
By having trust with me, the endusers feel comfortable coming to me with their tech issues which I can suggest solutions to. Some people get off on power, I get off on seeing my ideas put in place and profitablilty resulting from them.
QuakeCon said:First off, I really don't appreciate the reaction that I got here. I thought you guys would be mature enough to just give me advice and leave the shit-talking out of it. I guess I was wrong.
The reason that I want it hidden is that we hire a lot of teenagers. We have suspicions of a few of them not working as much as they need to be and if they don't know they are being watched, they won't do the bad things that they are currently.
I just wanted an honest answer from the people who know more about the subject than I, and all I got was spit in the face.
Which is more important to the company? Catching people doing something wrong, or working on getting productivity up?QuakeCon said:The reason that I want it hidden is that we hire a lot of teenagers. We have suspicions of a few of them not working as much as they need to be and if they don't know they are being watched, they won't do the bad things that they are currently.
You got an honest answer. Then you got a spit in the face.QuakeCon said:I just wanted an honest answer from the people who know more about the subject than I, and all I got was spit in the face.
It's ALWAYS the time and place to denounce that bussiness.pointdexterish said:I don't think this thread is the time or the place to denounce telemarketing because a network admin would certainly want the ability to monitor the users on their network.
QuakeCon said:I just wanted an honest answer from the people who know more about the subject than I, and all I got was spit in the face.
Which was never done. ( by me, at least )pointdexterish said:Color me crazy but a forum dedicated to "Networking and Security" is hardly the time or place to attempt to assassinate someone's character based on their profession.
I enjoy a good sense of irony as much as everybody else. I'll explain.pointdexterish said:I don't see a need to pontificate about your own personal issues with his job choice. "Networking and Security" isn't a venue for that.
QuakeCon said:We do more than just telemarketing. It's official title is a "marketing firm".
I want people to have the freedom to do what they want, within reason. I don't mind if they search the web or instant message a little, it's normal for most of the teenagers we hire. I just want to be able to monitor certain employees individually at times, because we suspect them of spending more time playing than working.