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No but it would likely mean that iMessage and Android messaging are going to be allowed to operate within the WhatsApp network which is what the DMA is actually targeting. WhatsApp makes up 70% of all the messaging services across the EU that’s the gatekeeper they are after.
Because Steve died. Closed ecosystem is completely superior.
The ability isolate people through their phones purchased is not a choice nor is it freedom.. lol
Remember those words when the EU again forces Apple to either open up iMessage or adopt RCS. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Apple does it before the EU forces them again. Seems to be a common theme with Apple.
Let us know when you pick up an iPhone.
He's isolating himself with his ridiculous ideas.
It works by blurring media. Which is a pain when you're trying to do business with someone and will have to resort to other methods of communication. This will often turn into an Android is inferior situation, when it's actually just Apple isolating their users from Android users.
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” --Socrates
inferiority complexLol.
I don't understand why you care?
If an Android user communicates with an Android users, no problems. When an iPhone user communicates with an iPhone user, no problems. It's only a problem when you send media to and from Android to iPhone and vice versa. Android software wouldn't have a problem adopting Apple's iMessage, but Apple does. Apple also has a problem adopting RCS. This is Apple's fault.Inferior still means communication is possible.
Who's being isolated as you claimed Socrates? Isolated while communication still possible? So isolated how?
Or will Plato change the plot again instead?
Really does sound like your problem here is your
Standard SMS is the problem, not the solution. Email has limitations in how big of a file you can send. When I send a video clip with SMS to an iPhone user, it's blurred and unwatchable. Other chatting software does work, but how many people want to take the time to install an app and set it up just to send a quick video and photo? Especially when said person is illiterate when it comes to using their phone? What should take a second, could take 5-10 minutes depending on the persons understanding of their device. Given the person wants to install and setup another communication app, because they may not. It would be easier if Apple were to open up iMessage, or adopt RCS, or preferable both. No reason not to other than Apple wants to continue their walled garden.
And looks like video file size is still a limit to 105MB on rcs, which yes is better than sms (600KB-3.5MB) and MMS (1.2 - 3MB) but also i dont think this is really in the way of progressing in the world. Everything is still going to be compressed for high quality stuff.
Which is why they want Apple to open things up so they can do that, it's advertising companies funding this little EU excursion into gatekeepers, I mean look at the things they are investigating, they are all advertising platforms or payment gateways.
Send a video file and tell me how it works out.
iMessage has the same limitation, but I think it also limits video length of 4:15. With 105MB limitation, I could send an episode of Rick and Morty.
So what you are saying is that the quality of what you send isnt important to you.
And Telegram lets you send 2 GB files (WhatsApp as well, after Telegram goaded them), which I use with friends and family on both iOS and Android. However, if something is larger than 5 MB, you can send up to 50 GB using iCloud link. The only limitation in communication there is between devices is stubbornness and stupidity. You can communicate with anyone on Android or iPhone. If you need to send larger files, neither iMessage nor RCS will suffice.
Like people that come to me wondering why they can't email this 1.2GB file...
Best Exchange server crash I ever saw was where Single Instance Storage was not enabled (ooold Exchange) and some C-level knucklehead attached a some stupidly large PowerPoint file and sent it to everyone. Near instantly destroyed the storage on that box. C-levels had previously complained about attachment limits so much the admin at the time just said "screw this, I'm setting all the limits to unlimited."
Exactly! I like RCS as a naked standard to replace SMS, but not if they are going to push it as a packaged deal with RBM "Business Messaging" (AKA Advertising spam), but as RBM is built into the RCS Universal Standard it can't be separated with the current implementation of RCS so that is a no go for me as well.
RCS as a protocol only supports end-to-end encryption between devices addressed with an E.164 format, so [+][countrycode][areacode and phone number] such as +14155552671 or +442071838750.
Snapchat. Signal. Whatsapp. Email. Shared email links. Telegram. And so on - in fact, those have far more control and features than imessage, RCS, or SMS. Again - this isn't an issue.
Because they don't care. And the reality, most people don't either. I communicate fine with Android people.
Onedrive. Dropbox. Imgur. Youtube. Google drive. Shared web link. Bajillion options there too.
Use one of the other options? You're proposing Apple be forced to adopt yet another standard, when you yourself aren't willing to adopt any of the available standards that would solve your problem. Even the EU doesn't really care about this.
If they can figure out the phone enough to figure out how to send a text message, they can install telegram, which generally looks just like the text applications, uses phone numbers, is actually encrypted by someone I'd trust a lot more than Google or the telecom companies, and can handle media just fine. It's also a one time investment in time to solve this issue. It's far more capable than any of the above standards.
This is literally a perfect comment from you I couldn't even make a better joke one myself
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I guarantee you that an episode of Rick and Morty with 105MB file size at 720P would look great. This is what happens when you send a video file through SMS to an iPhone user.
Again, because I already said this, how long does it take to setup an account with any of these services? Also email has limitations in how big of a file size you can send. One of the reasons people use iPhones is because they just work, which also means most iPhone users couldn't be bothered to go the extra steps needed to send and receive video files. I assume this is also the case for Android. Defaults matter when the people you deal with can count to potato.
Apple cares, about their bottom line.
Hey grandma, I'm gonna need you to setup a Onedrive so I can send you a video. No grandma, I said Onedrive not go drive. I'll just send you a link from Imgur, just give me 5 minutes, 10 minutes tops. This what you want me to deal with?
You're missing the point of this thread which is to get Apple to open up iMessage. If Apple can't even adopt RCS then open up iMessage. You have iTunes for Windows so why not iMessage for Android?
Dude we've talked about this like a page or two ago. The EU made a law the pretty much targets Apple, Google, and Amazon. The only reason iMessage gets a pass for now is because not many Europeans are using Apple products compared to Americans. Europe's Android use is closer to 70% while in America it's closer to 50%. For now, Apple gets a pass.
buy your grandma an iphone. - tim apple.
She doesn't even have her glasses on.
"Trust us, we delete your messages within 24hrs, until we quietly change the ToS to reflect our prime directive: data equals money."
None of them are using Google Messages or Samsung messages either, it’s all What’s App, and Facebook Messanger, which is why those two are then my two actually named in the documents.
