DooKey
[H]F Junkie
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yeah i cancelled my pre-order
i guess i'm sticking with my titan x pascal for another year or two
That's still a good card.
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yeah i cancelled my pre-order
i guess i'm sticking with my titan x pascal for another year or two
What is the reference clock? Is anyone, including nVidia, going to sell it at that speed? Is it still the reference speed, if even the reference card doesn't use it?Any device out of the box set to higher than reference clocks is overclocked.
This is [H]ard|OCP, not Smart|OCP lol. The cards will sell well because despite how a handful of people feel about the cards, there will be people that want the latest & greatest. Since AMD will have no answer for some time, there is nothing really stopping these cards from flying off shelves other than those that choose to wait for the next big performance leap. They will be waiting awhile for that.
What is the reference clock? Is anyone, including nVidia, going to sell it at that speed? Is it still the reference speed, if even the reference card doesn't use it?
That is an overclock, it just isn't a max overclock.FE is not overclocked, it just has a higher reference clock.
What is the reference clock? Is anyone, including nVidia, going to sell it at that speed? Is it still the reference speed, if even the reference card doesn't use it?
nope, not a single card will be sold at it's reference clock.. this is actually the first time i've ever seen nvidia do this where they set a reference clock for both cards in it's line up significantly lower than what any card will be clocked at when it's sold.. my guess is this was done intentionally so that they can use the same argument that NKD is using. the FE's are the base line clock(which is still considered an overclocked card based on nvidia's official reference clocks) all 3rd party cards will be clocked similarly or higher than the FE.
I am not sure about all. Word is Nvidia is not allowing non binned chips to be overclocked out of the box. So AIB can’t buy non binned chips and OC them out of box to sell em. It’s really little crazy this time. Looks like Nvidia is not even giving AIBs any wiggle room. Even they have to pay premium for binned chips it seems lol. So It may be so that they are trying to give the upper hand to FE cards so the AIBs don’t under cut em. Makes sense business wise If they are trying to maximize profits as much as them can while there is no competition.
How do you figure that? We're getting close to the end of the road on process with GPU's just like with CPU's. What happened with past performance isn't an indicator of future performance anymore unfortunately.
Also, 12nm isn't a node jump at all. Just a refined process. That doesn't make for much uplift there. NV is getting all of their uplift from a bigger chip. Of course they could have used more of that real estate for rasterization, but they see RT (and so do most developers) as the next step in graphics. We're not going to see 70% rasterization uplift in a 7nm Turing successor either IMO.
I am one of those with a 1080Ti that was going to move to a 2080. The operative word being "was". I cancelled my pre-order. From the several reviews I have looked at now, the 2080 barely keeps pace with the 1080Ti. $800 for a card that barely matches a card that has been out 1.5 years. No thanks Nvidia. You won't get my money this time.
This 2080 TI is the card to have if you game at 4K. Period. It is a winner in that regard. 1440p pedestrians can skip it as they’re CPU bound. This is where you see the dismal 25% jump.
2080 TI is a solid 35%-40% jump @ 4K. HUGE for 4K guys like myself. Only the most brutal, punishing games might not see 60FPS constantly. Once DLSS hits in force, the 10-series will that much more obsolete.
My justification for the purchase speaks for itself. 35%-40% increase @ 4K. That is what most 4K users have been waiting for. Pretty much 60FPS locked. I'm moving away from SLi, not toward it.You, Dayaks, SixFootDuo seem like you're all the same person. You're all in your own echo chamber trying to justify your $1200+ purchase. It seems like the prudent thing to do is wait and see what happens with DLSS profiles if you all believe that is the magic bullet. See if pricing corrects itself, etc. At this point, you're just paying $1350 (I see you got the evga FTW card in another thread) to get 30-35% more performance over a 1080Ti. You could literally buy 2 1080Ti's for less than the cost of 1 2080Ti and be stuck in the same boat waiting for Nvidia to release SLI profiles instead of DLSS profiles, but you'd probably get better performance if you game at 4K.
Ditto. Pre-order canceled. 1080Ti+$400 in my pocket FTW.