[NEWS] Doom the movie - going to have hell!!!

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Comic-Con: Quint's got good news for DOOM fans!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the first report since the Con closed its doors today. Today I saw two panels, which I'll fill you in on before backtracking and hitting the stuff I missed last night. First up is DOOM.
I had written DOOM off after all the word starting coming out on how there was no Hell, no Mars and no creatures from the games. If they cut out Hell and Mars and creatures, then they were obviously going for a PG-13. I figured why the hell call it DOOM? I had really written it off as yet another ****ty video game adaptation.
However, at the panel today they revealed some surprises... Id Software has been involved since the beginning, the producers, filmmakers and stars all wanted to make a movie that respected the source material and the studio was willing to put it out R-rated.
Confirmed in the movie: MARS! IMPS! HELLKNIGHT! THE BARON! PINKY DEMONS! GORE!
This made me smile. They premiered the trailer and then showed a clip that truly won me over... I'll get to those after the tidbits of info gleaned from the panel featuring producers John Wells, Lorenzo DiBoneventura, Todd Hollenshead (Id CEO), Karl Urban and The Rock.
TIDBITS:
-Karl Urban is the main character, not The Rock, who plays Sarge. The Rock liked that character better.
SPOILER
-The Rock liked the character of Sarge better because he could explore his "darker side" and because his character "has a great twist at the end."
END SPOILER
-Karl and The Rock both played the original DOOM as well as its sequels, especially DOOM 3.
-The Rock on the film: "It's unapologetic as hell, faithful and gory."
-The Demons and Monsters are based off of the creatures in DOOM 3.
-They recreated sets directly from the game, like corridors and labs and even made the computer screens in the movie have the same style as what's on the computer screens in the game.
-Why The Rock wanted to do the DOOM movie: "I realized I could shoot the BFG."
-All the Army guys are were trained by SAS honcho Tom McAdams.
-The BFG was huge, according to The Rock.
-Stan Winston created most of the monsters, with the creative team behind the movie deciding against overusing CG.
-The monsters are big, most between 6 and 9 feet tall (and these are practical effects).
-"The intensity of the game is in the movie," said The Rock. From minute 5 we're there. Non-stop train ride to Hell."
-The young screenwriter Dave Callaham is very protective of the game.
-Lorenzo on the plot: He wouldn't go into it much but he did say, "A team on Mars chasing real evil, bad things."
-When pressed about differences between the games and the movie, Lorenzo said that we'll see how the monsters came about (Maybe this means no hell? Not sure.) and the evil little buggers get a chance to **** up the Earth. Interesting...
TRAILER & CLIP:
The trailer was really polished and sweet looking. I'd bet you'll see it very soon, either online or in theaters. The atmosphere looks very much like DOOM 3. The corridors are right out of the game with the steel grating and claustrophobic walls.
In the trailer we get to see zombies and glimpses of the rest of the creatures as well as The Rock firing the BFG at an Imp. The look of the blast and the sound of it could have been lifted straight out of the game. Overall it was pretty cool.
The clip was what got me. It was about 3 minutes and it was called FPS something or other and there is a reason for it. We were told before it played that the clip showed something that hasn't been done in film before... they're kind of right... this has been done (POV... DePalma and Carpenter specifically use it well), but not in the context in which they did it.
The clip begins with Karl Urban a little beat up, sitting on the floor with his back to a cabinet. There's a girl in the room with him. He falls and goes unconscious (at first I thought he had died) as the camera pushes into his eye. After a bright flash we're in Urban's POV. He gets to his feet, looks around the room. It's empty. No girl. He walks to a mirror and we see Urban (reflection), wiping a line of blood from his cheek. He locks and loads a gun and leaves the room.
This is where it really got me geeky. I love FPS (First Person Shooters) games and that love started with DOOM and Wolfenstein back in the day. So, it stands to reason that I loved the clip that followed because it was all done as a live action first person shooter.
The sounds, the score (temp, natch), the lighting and the sets were all straight out of the game. From the second he walks out the door, you hear the creatures and zombies. He comes upon the zombies first, taking them out with shots to the chest, then head. The gun is lower right screen the whole time. After a zombie or creature is shot, the gun ducks below frame and the reloading sound happens.
The camera movement, the strife moves... all looks great... a real live action video game sequence. It's pretty specific in the details... like the zombies are fairly easy to kill, while the Imps take a few more shots to kill and the big clawed ****ers take a lot of ammo... matter of fact, in the video, the first time we see one of these guys he gets about 5 seconds of ammo pumped into him before the gun tilts over and shoots the explosive tank next to it covering the demon in flames. The demon claws at itself as if trying to tear at the flames.
There are jump moments here that are great, like turning a corner, looking to one direction, seeing a blood-covered closed door, turning in the other direction and seeing nothing... walking down the corridor, then turning back to see a zombie right there. A quick shot from the shotgun (it changes from automatic rifle to shotgun about halfway through the scene) takes his head right off.
Most importantly the atmosphere survived. The scene shown was more actiony, but even here you can see how dark the corridors are, how the tight the space is...
I was really shocked. This panel completely turned me around. The whole movie might be bull****, but this whole sequence was kick-ass... My favorite part... after shooting a ton of Imps and reloading, the camera is moving down a dark corridor. It pans casually to the left to see a vague shape and sends off one shot in a knee-jerk way. After a beat we see that the shape was Karl Urban's face. It was the reflection of the POV and there's a bullet mark on the steel or whatever the reflective surface was. I've done that a dozen times while playing. That made me smile.
The clip ended with one of the big ****ers swiping at us and hitting us. You hear Urban grunting and then he's knocked off the ledge (still all in POV). He grabs a grenade (looked more like a timed mine from the GoldenEye game), places it on the floor and rolls out of the way as the big ****er jumps down. The explosive goes off and the left hand blocks some of the exploding creature as it comes up to block the debris and blinding flash.
This was all about 3 minutes and Lorenzo said that it was only half of what the FPS sequence is.
If the whole movie had been shot like this it would have been very interesting, but would alienate a huge part of the audience. I love that they made this nod to the fans as well as showing a sequence uniquely. Maybe a certain videogame director can learn a thing or two from this bit, at least. They made a section feel and look like part of the game without editing in footage from DOOM 1 or 2.
Anyway, I'll leave you with a picture from the panel when they somehow started joking about The Rock and Karl Urban being gay lovers. The below pic is after Dwayne says, "Now he knows why they call me The Rock!"
I got tons more, so keep checking back, squirts! See ya' then!





woo hooooooooooooooooo
 
Wow its seems they are saying, it is the complete opposite of what they originally stated. Actually sounds like it could be cool.
 
Edit: Oops. This is why I should never have more than one [H]forum-tab open at the time.
Oh well, while I'm here ...

From the sounds of it, I think the non-FPS-playing audience might have a bit of trouble adjusting to the way this movie will work. We'll just have to wait and see how that works out. :)
Also, I think Karl Urban might have been a good choice as a protagonist. Better than The Rock, at least. (Though I did notice that The Rock was the first choice.)
 
Good point, i hope it span out good an di am glad ID got involved

previously the "rumor" was that it was really just going to be another resident evil

zombies on earth type crap!
 
I thought the movie was already done. Did they start over? :eek:
 
also rumored, the movie will be displayed much better in theaters using nvidia based movie projectors. theaters sporting ati projectors with tons of eye candy will be forced to turn off all bells and whistles in hopes of competeing with nvidia based theaters, while failing miserably.
 
Hazards said:
also rumored, the movie will be displayed much better in theaters using nvidia based movie projectors. theaters sporting ati projectors with tons of eye candy will be forced to turn off all bells and whistles in hopes of competeing with nvidia based theaters, while failing miserably.
lol
 
HHunt said:
Edit: Oops. This is why I should never have more than one [H]forum-tab open at the time.
Oh well, while I'm here ...

From the sounds of it, I think the non-FPS-playing audience might have a bit of trouble adjusting to the way this movie will work. We'll just have to wait and see how that works out. :)
Also, I think Karl Urban might have been a good choice as a protagonist. Better than The Rock, at least. (Though I did notice that The Rock was the first choice.)
superthrawn said:
I wonder if Karl Urban will have any lines.
There's only a 6-7 minute scene that's FP.
The rest of the movie will be the normal camera angles.
 
It was a joke relating to the fact that the protaganist didn't have any lines in the game, and the movie was based heavily off the action in the game.
 
The Doom movie will not have Hell in it - I don't think the Rock was being literal in his comments.
 
Kadarom Douhrek said:
There's only a 6-7 minute scene that's FP.
The rest of the movie will be the normal camera angles.

You're most likely right, yet that doesn't mean that the rest of the movie can't still be rather FPS-ish.
 
Did you read this? We might even be able to expect a Wolfenstein movie!

"With Wolfenstein, that's a project that we've actually had in development. We've been working with some writers and those sorts of things. It's obviously not as far along as the Doom movie was when it took off after we had the E3 showing in 2002, but I think as we go forward with a lot of those franchises, I mean… you haven't seen the last Wolfenstein game. I don't want to talk too much about when or what the next one's going to be, it's still very much in the drawing board phases, but I think as… my hope is, it's not too dissimilar from Doom III and the Doom movie, where we kinda had the game going on, and the movie really caught fire. So we'll have the same thing with Wolf as well."
 
It will still suck. Every movie that's ever been made that was based on a game has sucked.

I will go see it though, now that they changed the rating to an R. As long as there's blood, guts, and lots of screaming, I should be at least half-way content. :D
 
d34dly said:
Did you read this? We might even be able to expect a Wolfenstein movie!

"With Wolfenstein, that's a project that we've actually had in development. We've been working with some writers and those sorts of things. It's obviously not as far along as the Doom movie was when it took off after we had the E3 showing in 2002, but I think as we go forward with a lot of those franchises, I mean… you haven't seen the last Wolfenstein game. I don't want to talk too much about when or what the next one's going to be, it's still very much in the drawing board phases, but I think as… my hope is, it's not too dissimilar from Doom III and the Doom movie, where we kinda had the game going on, and the movie really caught fire. So we'll have the same thing with Wolf as well."

Yes, wolfenstein fans including myself have creamed ourselves in ectasy at this news. It'd be interesting if they base it off RTCW or a future wolfenstein game. :p
 
Why is everyone so happy to see "Hell" :confused: Not the happiest place...thats for sure. Then again, i'm not one of those gothic/punk freaks so what do I know about this topic.
 
Circuitbreaker8 said:
Why is everyone so happy to see "Hell" :confused: Not the happiest place...thats for sure. Then again, i'm not one of those gothic/punk freaks so what do I know about this topic.

It has nothing to do with being gothic. It has to do with the fact that Doom takes place in a HELL environment and it should be accurate to the game.
 
Hell would be interesting to see because it is the ultimate source of horror, and no movie has ever attempted to show it properly (Constantine doesn't count).Perhaps that's because it would require a huge visual effects budget, and the scenes might be too graphic for an R rating.

However, the Doom movie has adopted a sort of "implied" Hell. The movie will not feature it literally. They appear to take the game seriously, though. Using Stan Winston's practical effects instead of CG is probably the right way to go.
 
Cadaver said:
Hell would be interesting to see because it is the ultimate source of horror, and no movie has ever attempted to show it properly (Constantine doesn't count).Perhaps that's because it would require a huge visual effects budget, and the scenes might be too graphic for an R rating.

However, the Doom movie has adopted a sort of "implied" Hell. The movie will not feature it literally. They appear to take the game seriously, though. Using Stan Winston's practical effects instead of CG is probably the right way to go.

Whats pratical effects mean?

//Elimi'Xed
 
Practical effects refers to non computer generated elements. For example, in the Doom movie, the various creatures are portrayed by people in suits (like in Aliens or Predator, or Aliens versus Predator :) ). This means that the marines will be able to interact with the creatures, and they will have a real feel and weight to them.

As the article said, some of these creatures are up to 9 feet high. Even Todd Hollenshead was impressed. Hopefully, they won't suck.
 
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