Darunion
Supreme [H]ardness
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FTFY and the answer is yes! For just $5 you can be steve the zerglingDoes this mean we'll see a Starcraft characters in Minecraft??
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FTFY and the answer is yes! For just $5 you can be steve the zerglingDoes this mean we'll see a Starcraft characters in Minecraft??
LMAO, nothing lost, nothing gained.$68.7B is the deal. Bobby Kotick will remain CEO.
https://news.microsoft.com/features...ty-of-gaming-to-everyone-across-every-device/
That is just as laughable as people believing Elder Scrolls wouldn't be exclusive after the Zenimax acquisition. Just wishful thinking. Microsoft wouldn't purchase such a large publisher without the intent of gaining exclusive rights to their intellectual property.
Please bring World of Warcraft back to it's glory days with 10.0 and the next expansion.
But seriously, how will this effect WoW short-term and long-term?
Me too. Very excited to see how Microsoft mismanages all the IP. Fun times!Been watching them mismanage all the Blizzard IP's for years so I'm pretty excited to see what happens moving forward.
Latest rumblings are that Kotick *will* be leaving once the merger is complete. Smart move and would probably alleviate alot of the drama going on at Activision Blizzard. Deserving or not, Kotick's become the 'face' of the scandal there.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/b...osofts-deal-goes-through-report/1100-6499731/
I mean I don't know how they planned to end Shadowlands but where do you go from there? Simply from a shitty story progression point, they have enough room in there for a book or two but certainly not enough of a space for an expansion to support them. This would be a good place to launch a full reboot, they could literally end this expansion with their equivalent of a big bang. Worlds of Warcraft.I do not believe that will happen, I think the wow team has just had too much brain drain over the last few years on top of all the other harassment issues. I dont think there are enough people there currently to even make a barebones patch, much less a hit it out of the park expansion. It is pretty obvious that shadowlands has already been abandoned WoD style with most of its planned content cut. I dont see how they can get a new expansion out even in the next 2 years, much less make a good one. Heck I am doubtful they will even be able to release WotLK classic at this point.
Hoping they maybe steal some brain talent from Creative Assembly for that one. That could be dope.Hopefully some new StarCraft games.
This would be a good place to launch a full reboot, they could literally end this expansion with their equivalent of a big bang. Worlds of Warcraft.
and 99% of it is irrelevant to the current gameYeah, I'd be okay with that - so much bloat with the current game.
As much as I love Starcraft for what it is. Its a universe that could be turned into multiple interesting games.Hopefully some new StarCraft games.
StarCraft Ghost confirmed!!! jk of courseAs much as I love Starcraft for what it is. Its a universe that could be turned into multiple interesting games.
I'm sure Microsoft will mostly mess things up... hopefully they green light a bunch of stuff.
Ive been playing Warzone with my buddy and am CONSTANTLY assaulted by "you could have this skin if you buy the battle pass!" popups.The only source I can find on the $13B figure was this, and it doesn't provide a source for that number.
https://techjury.net/blog/gaming-industry-worth/
The number I could find was shown in Sony's financial reports that SIE's gross revenue in 2020 was $25B, and their operating income was $3.2B.
FIFA is EA. Warzone is Activision's cash cow, making around $5M a day.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/esports/how-much-money-did-warzone-make-in-2021/ar-AARRa5r
That depends on how you look at it. From the immediate perspective this would be a good thing since Activation Blizzard has more people that hate them than love them. Microsoft will absolutely fund the living shit out of their games, but this comes at a cost. The whole point is to get gamers onto the Xbox platform. That means for the near future that new Call of Duty games won't be on Playstation. At some point Mac OSX ports of World of Warcraft will end since it's also not Xbox. Future World of Warcraft ports will be made to work on gamepads, which you can take that what you will but again Xbox. Linux gaming will have an impossible time installing these games as at some point they'll be exclusive to the Xbox GamePass store. Or at least getting Linux gamers banned for finding creative ways to install games off GamePass.Wow, some good news in gaming. It's been a while.
As much as I love Starcraft for what it is. Its a universe that could be turned into multiple interesting games.
I'm sure Microsoft will mostly mess things up... hopefully they green light a bunch of stuff.
My guesses:
Call of Duty: Azeroth
Diablo IV DLC character class: DOOM SLAYER
The Outer Starcraft Worlds: Episode Kerrigan
Tony Hawk with a Minecraft level creator. (Honestly, that would be pretty fucking rad.)
Forza and Kazooie
New Overwatch Character: THE COOOOOOOOOOOOLE TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN
“Dunwall”
Infinity Ward makes a F2P Battle Royale based on the world of Dishonored.
World of Warcraft 2 is announced and Obsidian is a co-studio to help with development. It never releases.
Yeah. Call of duty only on Xbox, game pass, and Windows store.For a company with $2.2B net incomes that seems highly overvalued.
Depending on the interest rate, a $2.2B perpetuity provides way less than $69B.
The payback on that investment is WAY too long.
Are they smoking crack, or do they see some synergies ok this deal that are lost on me, like maybe what they can do with the titles to promote game pass or the Windows Store or something like that?
Yep, its all going streaming. Prices will remain high on PC components for the foreseeable future and people will slowly start to walk away from building high dollar PC's.UnknownSouljer without quoting that wall of text, Microsoft is hoping you’ll be the perfect customer for a Gamepass Ultimate subscription so you’ll pay monthly fees to be able to stream the games you can’t natively play.
Be prepared for Battle.net to host everything.The only thing I really hope for out of this is that Microsoft splits Activision and Blizzard so their branding isn't mish mashed together. Maybe a Blizzard exclusive launcher or, better yet, Blizzard games on other platforms.
For a company with $2.2B net incomes that seems highly overvalued.
Depending on the interest rate, a $2.2B perpetuity provides way less than $69B.
The payback on that investment is WAY too long.
Are they smoking crack, or do they see some synergies ok this deal that are lost on me, like maybe what they can do with the titles to promote game pass or the Windows Store or something like that?
The most capitalist thing to do is be exclusive. They make more money from selling other peoples games than selling their own games. This is why Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are pushing for exclusives because they know you won't buy a console without them. This is also why on PC you have a launcher from every game company because nobody wants to lose 30% of their sales for the privilege to have their games on certain platforms.Since we're all weighing in:
My hope is that Microsoft will choose to go agnostic and full capitalist.
In other words try to move to a model like Steam, and sell to everyone, rather than go exclusive. I doubt they'll go this route though. They'd rather be monopolistic. Although I'd bet they'd make more money by being a vendor and a store front if they decided to sell to everyone. Make Xbox the "brand" instead of Windows. And then sell "Xbox" to "Windows", Playstation, macOS, whatever.
My hope is that Microsoft does a Sony and future titles don't have micro-transactions and very limited DLC. This is something you see in all Sony exclusives in that they don't do dirty tactics to make extra cash. A lot of these companies are losing customers because they care more about immediate returns rather than long term customers. Blizzard thought they had the most loyal customers but after a while their customers hate them now.The only "difference" now will be that hopefully these devs won't produce complete trash titles like they have been. As basically every one of the franchises that are associated with these brands has been run into the ground. There are exceptions like Doom 2016 and Overwatch. But against popular opinion, the Elder Scrolls series has sucked. Fallout isn't Fallout. Most Activision titles have been played out. And Blizzards IPs have been run into the ground slowly over the course of 10 years. The only way things can get better from here is essentially if internal policies for these companies get better. Quality over quantity (yearly cycles) gets emphasized. And legacy of IPs gets valued over profits (which was Blizzards model, which I might add still leads to massive profits - just not short term ones. However, you can sell a classic game forever. A yearly released one won't last more than 8 months).
High dollar PC's weren't the mainstream of PC gaming. Steam's hardware survey shows that people still use sub $300 graphic cards from 2016 in 2022. I don't now when prices will come down but this does create an opportunity for some other party to come in and shack things up with more competition. Someone besides Intel will enter the GPU market at some point. In the mean time people will just hold onto their old hardware. Even console users aren't giving up Playstation 4's as the prices are still high for what is a discontinued product. As discontinued as one can be when a successor is released.Yep, its all going streaming. Prices will remain high on PC components for the foreseeable future and people will slowly start to walk away from building high dollar PC's.
This is dependent on excellent internet access. And although I have "okay" service - for the time being - this isn't a great option for me because of this reason (I've tested out Google's stream service as well as Amazon's just to check it out). Also it would be a waste of money. I play on average 2 games a year. Maybe. It would be the equivalent of paying for a gym pass and never going to the gym.UnknownSouljer without quoting that wall of text, Microsoft is hoping you’ll be the perfect customer for a Gamepass Ultimate subscription so you’ll pay monthly fees to be able to stream the games you can’t natively play.
The most capitalistic thing to do is make the maximum amount of money. There are multiple theories on this. Suffice it to say that I would go with all theories that leave the maximum amount of parties happy. Because the intangible happyness is what creates repeat customers and good will. That's the frenzy behind the Witcher 3 and CP2077. Which obviously CP2077 tarnished.The most capitalist thing to do is be exclusive.
Sure. Apple literally makes no games and makes more money from gaming than than Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo combined. We've had that conversation though. The iPhone is a greater money making 'console' than consoles.They make more money from selling other peoples games than selling their own games.
Yes and no. Sony as an example is starting to reverse its stance. It's recognizing by selling to PC as well as Playstation all it does is increase sales. The purpose of console platform exclusivity was to buy into a given platform at the cost of others. But it also turns out that if you sell on multiple platforms you make more money period.This is why Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are pushing for exclusives because they know you won't buy a console without them.
Also not true. Steam has given way more small devs a platform than would ever be possible than if they tried to make their own launcher - frankly for a small dev the cost of servers and bandwidth would far exceed Steams 30% cut. And that is ignoring all of the other free services such as financial transaction systems and support as well as nearly perfect uptime. Despite devs complaining about 30% taxation to list a game, that also still hasn't stopped any producer like CDPR from listing their titles on every platform (despite also owning GoG). Probably because quite frankly it's far more fair than they'd like to admit. Especially versus where gaming came from - physical copies and distribution.This is also why on PC you have a launcher from every game company because nobody wants to lose 30% of their sales for the privilege to have their games on certain platforms.
Right. Which is all to my point. Goodwill only extends as long as things are good.My hope is that Microsoft does a Sony and future titles don't have micro-transactions and very limited DLC. This is something you see in all Sony exclusives in that they don't do dirty tactics to make extra cash. A lot of these companies are losing customers because they care more about immediate returns rather than long term customers. Blizzard thought they had the most loyal customers but after a while their customers hate them now.
Cool - opinions. Like I said, I already know most people disagree with me. What's the count on Skyrim? Ported to at least 10 different platforms/editions? It's a flaming turd that apparently the masses can't get enough of.My opinion on the games you listed is this. Elder Scrolls has been awesome and most people agree with me. Fallout 4 was a fine game but obviously lacked morality choices that you got with older Fallout games. This is probably due to time and lack of funding.
It's hilarious you say that. If you go to Activision's game section I count no less than 15 CoD games listed. If you count most as being 50% or above, then you're right. But it's certainly more than any other and at this point definitely what Activision is known for.Most Activision games are not just Call of Duty.
Great? You're just expressing fandom. People liking the idea of something and not actually even liking that thing. You've just described every 15 year old wearing a Pink Floyd or Nirvana shirt. By your definition "I like Star Wars" despite thinking that there hasn't been a good Star Wars film since 1983.Blizzard games can be salvaged easily with the right person directing them. How many fans that don't play WoW are still fans of the game? Enough that quality machinima is still created to this day.
Counterpoint: What's 30% of $0?The most capitalist thing to do is be exclusive. They make more money from selling other peoples games than selling their own games. This is why Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are pushing for exclusives because they know you won't buy a console without them. This is also why on PC you have a launcher from every game company because nobody wants to lose 30% of their sales for the privilege to have their games on certain platforms.
Microsoft has gone full Corporatist, and has been a multi-trillion USD megacorp for a while now.Since we're all weighing in:
My hope is that Microsoft will choose to go agnostic and full capitalist.