Intel APO testing, 12th & 13th gen get the shaft

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Intel has finally addressed the E-Core performance in games by utilizing a program called Application Optimization.
This technology has to be supported by the MB and only works on the 14th gen, no love for the 12th or 13th gen it seems, nor will there ever be according to Intel.
As of now, only Metro Exodus and Rainbow Six Siege support this technology.

The initial deployment of the BIOS update from MSI is tailored for Intel Core i7-14700K, i7-14700KF, i9-14900K, and i9-14900KF processors, conspicuously omitting Core i5 variants which could also benefit from the gaming performance improvements APO provides. This limitation excludes previous generations, including the 13th Generation, from utilizing APO despite their similarities in performance capabilities and design architecture.
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https://www.guru3d.com/story/msi-bios-update-for-14th-gen-intel-core-cpus-enables-apo-support/

Check to see if your MB vendor has released a BIOS update to enable APO. Then go to the Microsoft store to download the APO application.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000095419/processors.html

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NZ98VNK5X1S?rtc=1&hl=en-us&gl=US


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISl-QQ5lWI4

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Seems to me that these are some potentially game changing tweaks that should be made at the BIOS level sans windows software. Intel limiting this to the 14th gen is shady at best when in reality the 12/13th gen ecores need serious optimization.
 
techie81 said:
Seems to me that these are some potentially game changing tweaks that should be made at the BIOS level sans windows software. Intel limiting this to the 14th gen is shady at best when in reality the 12/13th gen ecores need serious optimization.
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But then how would they convince you to buy their new CPU thats 0.0076% faster?
 
It's interesting that APO actually increases e-core utilization while improving the performance and using less power as Steve noted in the video. At first I thought APO just makes sure that game threads get sent to the P-cores and never the e-cores.
 
An amazing feature available on 2 games I don't play.

Don't get me wrong the gains and great and it even uses less power; proof that ecores are not the second coming of Satan like some would have us believe.

But if it requires bios+game support+installing an app...Urgh. Just like 7950 X3D this is not a good look at all.
 
kalston said:
An amazing feature available on 2 games I don't play.

Don't get me wrong the gains and great and it even uses less power; proof that ecores are not the second coming of Satan like some would have us believe.

But if it requires bios+game support+installing an app...Urgh. Just like 7950 X3D this is not a good look at all.
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The more amazing feature is the option to disable them.
 
Wake me up when this somehow works out better in DCS, Star Citizen, etc. without my usual Process Lasso "keep these off the E-cores" scheduler intervention.

At any rate, I'm definitely not buying a refresh CPU just to use APO, so here's hoping they throw 12700K owners a bone here. Only viable upgrade from a CPU like that right now is Sapphire/Emerald Rapids, where I don't have to worry about heterogeneous cores in the first place.
 
NamelessPFG said:
Wake me up when this somehow works out better in DCS, Star Citizen, etc. without my usual Process Lasso "keep these off the E-cores" scheduler intervention.

At any rate, I'm definitely not buying a refresh CPU just to use APO, so here's hoping they throw 12700K owners a bone here. Only viable upgrade from a CPU like that right now is Sapphire/Emerald Rapids, where I don't have to worry about heterogeneous cores in the first place.
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They're too busy enabling the feature for specific popular games that already run perfectly fine without it. But bigger numbers better.
 
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