Indecisive on M.2 Nvme Pcie

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I can't decide on a SSD for my build - the motherboard will have pcie 4.0 x4 - but, should I bother getting a pcie 4.0 drive?

I am trying to budget the entire build - and the high performance pcie 4.0 are considerably more expensive? $50 more at least? Is that considered a lot more expensive? :)

Anyway, I still want to buy an 'expensive' case - and 64 GB RAM and it's gonna be tough to squeeze it in. $50 more might help?

Well, these are the SSDs - I am looking at.
* SN570
* SN770
* A2000
* 980

Which one should I pick? In terms of prices $$: A2000 < SN570 < 980 < 770

(Edit: All are 1tb - I assume I should get at least 1tb for an OS drive?)

I think, only the WD SN770 is pcie 4.0 (x4). The rest are PCIe 3.0. If there's any other options - I am not sure - I think there were some that looked good but were out of stock or had high import/delivery fees. So, I had to look at others.
 
the NVME drive always runs slower off the chipset rather than the cpu slot. I have 1tb firecuda 530 and a ADATA Gammix S70 Blade 2tb. My firecuda can get read speed of 7100mb/s in the cpu slot but if i used the 2nd slot down it maxes out at 6500mb/s read. Writes are a similar story. Same with the S70 blade. It can do 7400mb/s off the cpu on the chipset slot i get 6500 MB/s r 3200 w mb/s this is on a Gigabyte Aorus Master X570S latest bios installed with a 5950x
 
I'm using a 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe m.2 SSD in my system. Although I have some space to spare, I am considering a 2 TB version of this SSD as my OS drive. Just to be comfortable with space available. It's not required, but it would be nice.
Once you have the OS, Work Applications, a few Steam Games, and MP3 collection on the drive, it fills up, Pavel.
My MP3 Library is at 176 GB... 2 or 3 Steam Games reach 75-100 GB each... Corel Draw! Graphics Suite is sizable enough... MS Office... Photos and other Media they all take space
I suspect a 1 Tb SSD would suffice for your needs, but 2 TB is better.
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Get a 980 Pro. If you are going to spring for an "expensive case" and 64GB of ram, get the best NVME drive for the system.
 
Zepher said:
Get a 980 Pro. If you are going to spring for an "expensive case" and 64GB of ram, get the best NVME drive for the system.
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Any thoughts on the Adata S70 Blade? It's pcie 4.0 x 4 and is supposedly as fast. It's cheaper, too. Also, the WD 850 is comparable and a bit cheaper. I hear your reasoning - just wondering if those drives should be considered, too?
The SN570 is pcie 3.0 and is the cheapest - but, also, has good reviews and speeds for what it is. I don't think I can spring for 2TB, though.

Isn't 2TB a bit much for an OS, guys? I guess we only have around 3 slots for M.2 and so we should get the highest capacity we can? I also want a 2nd M.2 SSD eventually for Linux (this first one I am buying will house Windows 10 Pro, probably). So, that will fill up 2 of the slots - for operating systems. That leaves one more (unless I get a board with 4) - for data - and thus, I'll get a 2TB (at least) then.
There's at least 4 to 6 SATA ports - which I'll get cheap SATA SSDs when I have extra $$ for it. I don't want nor should I need SATA HDDs. :)
 
pavel said:
Any thoughts on the Adata S70 Blade? It's pcie 4.0 x 4 and is supposedly as fast. It's cheaper, too. Also, the WD 850 is comparable and a bit cheaper. I hear your reasoning - just wondering if those drives should be considered, too?
The SN570 is pcie 3.0 and is the cheapest - but, also, has good reviews and speeds for what it is. I don't think I can spring for 2TB, though.

Isn't 2TB a bit much for an OS, guys? I guess we only have around 3 slots for M.2 and so we should get the highest capacity we can? I also want a 2nd M.2 SSD eventually for Linux (this first one I am buying will house Windows 10 Pro, probably). So, that will fill up 2 of the slots - for operating systems. That leaves one more (unless I get a board with 4) - for data - and thus, I'll get a 2TB (at least) then.
There's at least 4 to 6 SATA ports - which I'll get cheap SATA SSDs when I have extra $$ for it. I don't want nor should I need SATA HDDs. :)
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I only have experience with the 980 Pro's and WD SN750's, I have a pair 1 TB 980 Pro's in my 5900X setup and a 1TB and 500GB SN750's in my 5800X setup.
Both setups are quite fast, so you'd probably be quite happy with Gen3 NVME's.

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I only have experience with the 980 Pro's and WD SN750's, I have a pair 1 TB 980 Pro's in my 5900X setup and a 1TB and 500GB SN750's in my 5800X setup.
Both setups are quite fast, so you'd probably be quite happy with Gen3 NVME's.

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Yeah, those are good drives! Holy smokes, you have a lot of nvme pcie ssds! :)
 
What are you doing with the computer? PCIe 4.0 rarely matters much in real life. If you're pushing around multi-gigabyte files read or written sequentially, you might notice.

I have PCIe 4.0 (Samsung 980 Pro), 3.0 (970 Pro), and SATA MX500 in the same box. About 99% of the time I'd be hard pressed to say which drive I'm working from.
 
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What are you doing with the computer? PCIe 4.0 rarely matters much in real life. If you're pushing around multi-gigabyte files read or written sequentially, you might notice.

I have PCIe 4.0 (Samsung 980 Pro), 3.0 (970 Pro), and SATA MX500 in the same box. About 99% of the time I'd be hard pressed to say which drive I'm working from.
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Eventually, I'll be video editing?
My choices - SN570 - cheapest - $20 more -> Samsung 980 ->$10 more -> ADATA S70 Blade -> $10 more SN750 ..... at this point .... another $30 more gets the Samsung 980 Pro or WD 850.
 
"video editing" covers a lot of ground. Short 1080p clips? hour long 4K raw videos?

If those are your only choices, I'd probably pick the ADATA unless you're doing very large/long clips. I'm assuming this isn't billable work. (If so, get the 980 Pro or WD 850.)
 
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"video editing" covers a lot of ground. Short 1080p clips? hour long 4K raw videos?

If those are your only choices, I'd probably pick the ADATA unless you're doing very large/long clips. I'm assuming this isn't billable work. (If so, get the 980 Pro or WD 850.)
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Not my only choices but I thought those were the best PCIe 4. (& PCIe 3) ones. We don't have the 970 Pro. The WD 970 Evo Plus is available but the price is pretty close to a 980 Pro.
 
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Not my only choices but I thought those were the best PCIe 4. (& PCIe 3) ones. We don't have the 970 Pro. The WD 970 Evo Plus is available but the price is pretty close to a 980 Pro.
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Samsung makes the 970 EVO Plus not WD.... and the 970 EVO Plus is good, while not being quite a Pro.... solid choice.
 
BlackDragon1971 said:
Samsung makes the 970 EVO Plus not WD.... and the 970 EVO Plus is good, while not being quite a Pro.... solid choice.
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Oh, right. I was looking at the WD SN 750 - and got confused, I guess. Is the 970 EVO Plus worth getting over the SN 750 (and instead of waiting for the price of the ADATA S70 Blade to come down in price?)?
 
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Oh, right. I was looking at the WD SN 750 - and got confused, I guess. Is the 970 EVO Plus worth getting over the SN 750 (and instead of waiting for the price of the ADATA S70 Blade to come down in price?)?
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I have the 1 TB version of the Samsung 970 EVO Plus.... worth it and worth the size I got it in.
Funny, cause for NVMe m.2 SSDs... I recommend the Samsung 970 EVO Plus or the 970 & 980 Pro SSDs
for 2.5" SATA SSDs the sweet spot I find is the Western Digital Blue SSD with 3D NAND in a 1 TB flavour at least... they are good units for SATA
It's just the Parts Selection I build systems with based on my *Performance vs. Reliability vs. Price balance* I've found.... same as video cards I install EVGA units, because I like their build quality.
Spinning hard drives, I try to find HGST units refurbished... I like them still. Though some sellers are offering scalpers prices for HGST units.
 
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BlackDragon1971 said:
I have the 1 TB version of the Samsung 970 EVO Plus.... worth it and worth the size I got it in.
Funny, cause for NVMe m.2 SSDs... I recommend the Samsung 970 EVO Plus or the 970 & 980 Pro SSDs
for 2.5" SATA SSDs the sweet spot I find is the Western Digital Blue SSD with 3D NAND in a 1 TB flavour at least... they are good units for SATA
It's just the Parts Selection I build systems with based on my *Performance vs. Reliability vs. Price balance* I've found.... same as video cards I install EVGA units, because I like their build quality.
Spinning hard drives, I try to find HGST units refurbished... I like them still. Though some sellers are offering scalpers prices for HGST units.
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I'm considering the 970 Evo Plus - our 'local' store - sometimes price matches - and if they approve it, I can get it for $15 off. It's still expensive here - the big brand/model pcie3 x 4 drives are quite expensive. The Pro 890 is over $200 here (for e.g.).
I believe the ADATA 70S Blade gets pretty hot. Power consumption is okay at idle but a bit high on load. The Samsung is probably a better performer all around? The WD SN750 is an option, too - and $5 cheaper - I seem to recall that WD changed some internals though????? Controller or some internal chip? I can't remember exactly. I think there is a REV. 2.0 version - I don't know what this one is -maybe the original? I don't recall seeing a rev. 2 anywhere in the specs/info section. There's only 1 in stock though - and I am not sure if it's accurate. The WD store has them but I suspect there's a shipping charge.
 
Might want to look at the corsair MP600 also, I got mine a few years ago for a pretty reasonable price and it was one of the few gen 4 drives at the time. It has been completely problem free for me since late 2019.
 
Starfalcon said:
Might want to look at the corsair MP600 also, I got mine a few years ago for a pretty reasonable price and it was one of the few gen 4 drives at the time. It has been completely problem free for me since late 2019.
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Hey, I found a MP600 for a good price - the chain of stores here - they had one so I'm getting one transferred to the closest store so I can pick it up. I hope it's worth it! :) It's one of the cheapest 1TBs - the one I was looking at/considering is the WD SN570 - it's $15 cheaper - BUT, I believe it's DRAM-less - right?
Oh well, I can always change my mind but that wouldn't be nice. It's a good deal - a pcie 4.0 for less than all the other ones and it's still a decent drive. I think it has DRAM cache? The only concern is the huge heat sink it has - did you use yours or did you use the heat sink provided by the motherboard?
 
pavel said:
Hey, I found a MP600 for a good price - the chain of stores here - they had one so I'm getting one transferred to the closest store so I can pick it up. I hope it's worth it! :) It's one of the cheapest 1TBs - the one I was looking at/considering is the WD SN570 - it's $15 cheaper - BUT, I believe it's DRAM-less - right?
Oh well, I can always change my mind but that wouldn't be nice. It's a good deal - a pcie 4.0 for less than all the other ones and it's still a decent drive. I think it has DRAM cache? The only concern is the huge heat sink it has - did you use yours or did you use the heat sink provided by the motherboard?
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Yeah the corsair has a dram cache, so that isnt an issue. As for the heatsink, it is completely easily removable, as I had to take mine off to fit my board.
 
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Yeah the corsair has a dram cache, so that isnt an issue. As for the heatsink, it is completely easily removable, as I had to take mine off to fit my board.
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So, it's a good choice? The SN 750 is $10 more. I was split between those two. :)
 
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