I'm a total retard when it comes to this.

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r_a_s88

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Could anyone help guide me through:

A) where to get linux (a free download, no RH or mandrake)
B) how to install it on a separate older 12 gig HDD
C) some pointers on how to get it set up

please cope with me here, im a total linux tard and any help would be appreciated.

thanks,
Alan.
 
dave_graham said:
http://www.linuxiso.org



make ISO into CD, insert in drive, follow directions.

cheers,

Dave Graham
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thanks alot.

also: how do I make the ISO into a CD? whenever I deal with ISOs or other images I use Virtual DAEMON manager, but with this I do not think that the manager would be useful. any help on that front would be appreciated.
 
just need a simple CD burning program like Nero Express or something like that. It should have an option to "burn from image"

cheers,

Dave Graham
 
dave_graham said:
just need a simple CD burning program like Nero Express or something like that. It should have an option to "burn from image"

cheers,

Dave Graham
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thanks again.
 
im having problems downloading the ISOs...I try to download to my D drive (D partition) and once it nears completion i get an error saying that there isnt enough room in a C:\my documents\temp folder or something. Why does it keep trying to download the ISO to the C partition instead of the D partition? Do you suppose that there is a problem with my browser? (using firefox, btw). I guess I should try to use IE and see if that works.

also: i have heard of some servers that host linux ISOs that run on internet 2. does anyone have any links to that?
 
r_a_s88 said:
im having problems downloading the ISOs...I try to download to my D drive (D partition) and once it nears completion i get an error saying that there isnt enough room in a C:\my documents\temp folder or something. Why does it keep trying to download the ISO to the C partition instead of the D partition? Do you suppose that there is a problem with my browser? (using firefox, btw). I guess I should try to use IE and see if that works.

also: i have heard of some servers that host linux ISOs that run on internet 2. does anyone have any links to that?
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Ow it hurts!!!

Free up some hard drive space.

If you're at a place that *HAS* Internet2, then you can take advantage of it.
Google "redhat mirror" it should return an entire list.
 
You see...

IE is just fucking retarded; it downloads files to a temp space and then -copies- them to where you really wanted to put them; when you're low on HDD space & working with large files, this hurts.

You could use a browser that doesn't suck (Mozilla & Thunderbird are good candidates) or you could just use wget (it's almost standard once you've installed Linux, google for "wget win32" and you'll find a copy); it's a command-line file leecher. "wget http://www.foo.com/some/thing/here.iso" or whatnot is good.

As for Internet2, the mirror to chose from depends on which distro you go with; look for .edu and .gov sites and then traceroute them and see if you go over 'abilene' (that's the core I2 backbone for gov/edu sites in the US).

Here's a non-I2 site:
Code: 
ameoba@ece211-01D:~> tcptraceroute [url]www.hardforums.com[/url]
Selected device eth0, address MY.IP.GOES.HERE, port 56581 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to [url]www.hardforums.com[/url] (69.56.175.233) on TCP port 80, 30 hops max
 1  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 2  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 3  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 4  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 5  sl-gw22-ana-8-0-TS4.sprintlink.net (160.81.102.37)  46.279 ms  46.744 ms  46.357 ms
 6  sl-bb23-ana-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.105)  64.490 ms  46.975 ms  50.082 ms
 7  sl-bb25-ana-14-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.166)  46.450 ms  47.584 ms  46.577 ms
 8  sl-bb24-fw-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.65)  74.258 ms  74.675 ms  74.286 ms
 9  sl-bb20-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.11.17)  72.724 ms  75.383 ms  72.582 ms
10  sl-st21-dal-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.17)  76.522 ms  75.622 ms  76.261 ms
11  144.232.29.97 (144.232.29.97)  77.149 ms  135.142 ms  75.384 ms
12  sl-theplanet-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.250.114)  76.610 ms  76.135 ms  76.320 ms
13  car1-1-v2.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.43)  73.549 ms  73.773 ms  74.532 ms
14  www1.itotf.net (69.56.175.233) [open]  74.705 ms  74.865 ms  75.101 ms
(using tcptraceroute 'cuz the firewalls here drop ICMP)

and here's an I2 site:

Code: 
ameoba@ece211-01D:~> tcptraceroute [url]www.anl.gov[/url]
Selected device eth0, address MY.IP.GOES.HERE, port 46060 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to [url]www.anl.gov[/url] (146.137.96.68) on TCP port 80, 30 hops max
 1  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 2  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 3  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 4  MY_INTERNAL_ROUTER
 5  atmnorth-unm-25.CHECS.Net (192.65.78.25)  3.041 ms  3.041 ms  2.684 ms
 6  abilene-atmnorth-206.CHECS.Net (192.65.78.206)  11.338 ms  11.329 ms  11.236 ms
 7  kscyng-dnvrng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14)  21.880 ms  45.745 ms  37.478 ms
 8  iplsng-kscyng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.80)  46.150 ms  31.852 ms  33.496 ms
 9  chinng-iplsng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.76)  34.991 ms  35.152 ms  35.147 ms
10  mren-chin-ge.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.98)  34.829 ms  35.159 ms  49.432 ms
11  anl-mren-gige.anchor.anl.gov (192.5.170.213)  36.200 ms  35.971 ms  35.596 ms
12  fwzrt1-guava.anchor.anl.gov (130.202.222.66)  35.818 ms  35.615 ms  36.520 ms
13  [url]www.anl.gov[/url] (146.137.96.68)  35.708 ms  36.062 ms  35.705 ms
14  [url]www.anl.gov[/url] (146.137.96.68) [open]  34.657 ms  34.752 ms  34.619 ms

If you want to get really tricky, you can go to the Abilene site & check out their network map & traffic reports to try getting the fastest possible connect based on where you are.
 
well, the problem is, I use mozilla firefox and it still gives me the same hassle that IE does, so I do not know what the deal is. I have done some searching around in C:\Program Files, and deleted some trash prog. files like lycos toolbar, etc., so I should be fine for now. Anyone have experience with Partition Magic, I have a friend who has a copy of it (never used, coincidentally enough), and I am going to repartition my C drive to allow for more space for things like that.

T[H]anks again for the help,

Alan
 
Archer75 said:
Why no RH or Mandrake?
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im installing RH9 on a separate hard drive to see if I like it and im gonna get to learn it and tinker with it first, then I will probably set up RH9 or MDK10 as my main OS
 
Woohoo!

I literally minutes ago finished installing RH 8 (some version I had thrown around for some reason) on a second HD on my box....

Soo first time Linux post for me, from my first Linux box!!
 
r_a_s88 said:
im having problems downloading the ISOs...I try to download to my D drive (D partition) and once it nears completion i get an error saying that there isnt enough room in a C:\my documents\temp folder or something. Why does it keep trying to download the ISO to the C partition instead of the D partition? Do you suppose that there is a problem with my browser? (using firefox, btw). I guess I should try to use IE and see if that works.

also: i have heard of some servers that host linux ISOs that run on internet 2. does anyone have any links to that?
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an alternative

How to create and use NTFS mounted drives in Windows XP

You can also use mounted drives when you need additional storage space on a volume. If you map a folder on that volume to another volume with available disk space (for example, 2 gigabytes), you extend the storage space of the volume by 2 gigabytes (GB). With mounted drives, you are not limited by the size of the volume in which the folder is created.

Mounted drives make your data more accessible and give you the flexibility to manage data storage based on your work environment and system usage. These are additional examples by which you can use mounted drives:
To provide additional disk space for your temporary files, you can make the C:\Temp folder a mounted drive
More >
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a workaround you wouldnt need to deal with in Linux :p
 
Ice Czar said:
an alternative

How to create and use NTFS mounted drives in Windows XP



a workaround you wouldnt need to deal with in Linux :p
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bookmarked. thanks.

I just tried installing RH9, and here were my results:

So the install is botched, I go to install it, and it boots from the 1st CD and everything, but then when it asks where to look for the RH9 install disk it says it cant find it in the CD drive, so I attempt to pop my DVD drive and it wont open, so I put the 2nd CD in the burner, and it still cant find the installation on the 2nd CD. I also can't direct the installer towards the files on my Hard drive, because Linux can't read NTFS (where I have my ISOs stored).

Do you think:

A) The burned ISO CD does not work (the burn program gave me an error when I burned the CDs (3 in all, and the error was prior to burning the CD)

or B) it can't read the CD that is in the CD-RW drive.
 
Bad burn most likely. Did you try using the media checker? It should be one of the first things you see when installing RH.
 
there is also often a checksum available to verify various downloads
(to check for corruption or often to catch added malware, as unlikely as that would be in this case)
 
Techmasta said:
Bad burn most likely. Did you try using the media checker? It should be one of the first things you see when installing RH.
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must be a bad burn, then, because I never got to a media checker, just the screen asking where the installation was at.
 
Ice Czar said:
an alternative

How to create and use NTFS mounted drives in Windows XP



a workaround you wouldnt need to deal with in Linux :p
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There's a problem with that, though, that I haven't seen addressed too much.

Any file that gets moved to the recycle bin off of one of the mounted partitions will actually get moved over to the root partition, rather than just a fiddling of the location directory file data as normally happens. So if anyone ever does that, be sure to turn the recycle bin off if you routinely send large files its way.
 
my first ever linux install (on the laptop in my sig) was knoppix

it was amazingly easy to install, and took about 15-20 minutes total, including formatting the hard drive

definetly give knoppix on your hard drive a shot, it is worth it just to get used to some linux terms and the basic operation of linux itself
 
The problem with Knoppix HDD installs is support...


the guys in #debian don't like to answer knoppix questions and the majority of Knoppix users aren't familiar with the problems of a fixed HDD install.
 
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