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Is that legit mizzer and safe to use a credit card there?
I wouldn’t post it if it wasn’t.Is that legit mizzer and safe to use a credit card there?
I see. As mentioned there are larger PCIE 4 NVME available. Though you will pay a bit of a premium for that. You could also offload some of those games to that data drive as well. I do actually keep the steam games I am currently playing on my main OS drive. When I am done with it/ need room or haven't played in a while, I will move them to the data drive. When I need to do something to change the OS drive, i can move all of them. This is easily done with Steam. Not saying my way is the best. But, it is how I manage things without needing a 2TB OS drive. Just a thought!View attachment 353032
Mostly games installs thru steam,origin and what not
Mizzer: thanks for the heads up!!I see. As mentioned there are larger PCIE 4 NVME available. Though you will pay a bit of a premium for that. You could also offload some of those games to that data drive as well. I do actually keep the steam games I am currently playing on my main OS drive. When I am done with it/ need room or haven't played in a while, I will move them to the data drive. When I need to do something to change the OS drive, i can move all of them. This is easily done with Steam. Not saying my way is the best. But, it is how I manage things without needing a 2TB OS drive. Just a thought!
I agree with this. It definitely isn't the old days; when you had no chance of them transitioning a license. They want people to have windows 10. I am a bit surprised that they haven't just started letting individuals have it for free.FYI, you can still use the same Windows 10 Home (or Pro for that matter) license even if you swap motherboards. You usually just have to login to your Microsoft account and remove the older device. At worst you might have to give 'em a call and they'll take care of it for you over the phone. They're more finicky with Pro, but re-licensing Win 10 Home with a new Mobo is pretty simple.
Can you do this over live chat with Microsoft? I hate waiting for people over the phone lol. Is there something special I need to say to make it work lol I have win 10 pro. I don't plan on reusing the old motherboard but keeping it as a backup if something ever happens. Would be great if I could reuse the keyFYI, you can still use the same Windows 10 Home (or Pro for that matter) license even if you swap motherboards. You usually just have to login to your Microsoft account and remove the older device. At worst you might have to give 'em a call and they'll take care of it for you over the phone. They're more finicky with Pro, but re-licensing Win 10 Home with a new Mobo is pretty simple.
I thought that was the entire point of different retail and oem keys?FYI, you can still use the same Windows 10 Home (or Pro for that matter) license even if you swap motherboards. You usually just have to login to your Microsoft account and remove the older device. At worst you might have to give 'em a call and they'll take care of it for you over the phone. They're more finicky with Pro, but re-licensing Win 10 Home with a new Mobo is pretty simple.
Not sure about the live chat piece. I am totally with you on hating to be on hold for the phone. In my experiences, just tell the truth. You don't have to have an elaborate story. If you are changing mobo and not planning to use it for another windows machine, you should be just fine. As mentioned, they are a bit more finicky about pro licenses. But, this sounds pretty cut and dry.Can you do this over live chat with Microsoft? I hate waiting for people over the phone lol. Is there something special I need to say to make it work lol I have win 10 pro. I don't plan on reusing the old motherboard but keeping it as a backup if something ever happens. Would be great if I could reuse the key
I agree with this. It definitely isn't the old days; when you had no chance of them transitioning a license. They want people to have windows 10. I am a bit surprised that they haven't just started letting individuals have it for free.
I think your situation was a little different. You had win10 activated to Pro with a Home key. I can see why they didn't want to give you Pro...With Home they almost do. They'll go out of their way to set you up with a key, even if you don't have one. With Pro...not so much. Somehow I ended up with a fully licensed copy of Win 10 Pro last year. I did a clean install with a disk and I guess I chose "Pro." Yet the damned thing activated just fine. When I swapped mobos, it would NOT re-activate. I called and jumped through all the hoops, but they weren't having it. They just kept telling me to start over and re-install the Home version. Luckily there are videos that offer instructions how to hop between the two versions with a few registry edits.
I think your situation was a little different. You had win10 activated to Pro with a Home key. I can see why they didn't want to give you Pro...
How will it still work if it's tied to my old mobo? And I don't have any win 7 or 8 keys plus I want win 10 pro lol
not sure how it is where you guys live, but over here it's just an automated system, have to punch in the code windows gives you and the computer gives you your new key.Not sure about the live chat piece. I am totally with you on hating to be on hold for the phone. In my experiences, just tell the truth. You don't have to have an elaborate story. If you are changing mobo and not planning to use it for another windows machine, you should be just fine. As mentioned, they are a bit more finicky about pro licenses. But, this sounds pretty cut and dry.
not sure how it is where you guys live, but over here it's just an automated system, have to punch in the code windows gives you and the computer gives you your new key.
It gives you a new key if you had an oem key and want to move the key to a new mobo ?not sure how it is where you guys live, but over here it's just an automated system, have to punch in the code windows gives you and the computer gives you your new key.
yesIt gives you a new key if you had an oem key and want to move the key to a new mobo ?
Finally got the x570 msi tomahawk, Crucial 3600 ram and the 5800x. What are the best settings for the ram, cpu and any other settings in bios? Is there a way to set the mobo to Oc only when gaming? My old pc would only oc when needed using the asus ai suite 3 software and otherwise would just run stock speeds to save energy when it's not needed. I've never owned a msi board or amd cpu since the athlons lol
Another issue I'm having is the mobo is not picking up my 2 fans on my corsair h100i but they are spinning. I plugged them into the cpu fan header and also the pump fan header but neither picked up in bios. It picked up the pump, and my 2 case fans only.
Starting off with a new PC I just enable the XMP profile on the memory and begin testing. Once everything is good then I'll start farting around with overclocking. I don't know if there is anything to change with AMD CPUs, but starting off with Intel CPUs I always disable MCE (multicore enhancement) because it can cause voltage issues.Finally got the x570 msi tomahawk, Crucial 3600 ram and the 5800x. What are the best settings for the ram, cpu and any other settings in bios? Is there a way to set the mobo to Oc only when gaming? My old pc would only oc when needed using the asus ai suite 3 software and otherwise would just run stock speeds to save energy when it's not needed. I've never owned a msi board or amd cpu since the athlons lol
Another issue I'm having is the mobo is not picking up my 2 fans on my corsair h100i but they are spinning. I plugged them into the cpu fan header and also the pump fan header but neither picked up in bios. It picked up the pump, and my 2 case fans only.
What should I set the ram timings to be stable? I got Crucial ballistics3600 cl16No reason to overclock modern AM4 cpus.....set it for DOCP and the rest on Auto settings is typically good. (unles you have crashing then ram timings will need to be tweaked)
So by putting ram in xmp mode that boosts the cpu to run at a higher speed only when needed?Honestly, you can just let it fly as-is but just set your RAM to be in XMP mode. It'll boost all the way to 4.8GHz (or potentially a little higher) when needed, but it'll drop down to 3.5GHz'ish when it isn't being pushed. You can overclock it, but there isn't a ton of benefit or need for most folks.
just set docp and the mobo will auto set xmp timeings best it can....try it if it works call it a day and wait an see for total stabality. IF it has crashing or problems posting then manually set the timings to a more relaxed speed/timing. that being said one can reduce or increase the speed to say 3200 instead of timings....faster speed and timings equal beter benchmarks but often creat a 90% stable pc...me ill take a stable corectly working pc thant NEVER has issuesWhat should I set the ram timings to be stable? I got Crucial ballistics3600 cl16
Agreed I'd rather 100% than anything else!just set docp and the mobo will auto set xmp timeings best it can....try it if it works call it a day and wait an see for total stabality. IF it has crashing or problems posting then manually set the timings to a more relaxed speed/timing. that being said one can reduce or increase the speed to say 3200 instead of timings....faster speed and timings equal beter benchmarks but often creat a 90% stable pc...me ill take a stable corectly working pc thant NEVER has issues
So by putting ram in xmp mode that boosts the cpu to run at a higher speed only when needed?
Thanks for the help! BTW are there any other settings I need to fool with in bios or in good to go after I do the ram settings? I've never owned an msi board so wondering what other cool things it can do?!That's just how the CPU works by default. It'll boost as needed (up to a certain speed) when you do more intensive tasks.
XMP/DOCP is a mode that allows your RAM to be clocked to a certain set of higher timings via one step. In your case, 3600 MHz...or 2x1800 MHz since you're likely running in dual channel mode. It should work sans any issues since you're on a good motherboard and have a common RAM type...but if it gives you stability issue, you might have to tinker with timings or back off of XMP/DOCP mode.
I have that board and enabling it is super easy. There's a big ass "XMP" button in the upper left of the BIOS. Just press that button, save it, and call it done.
after all this...post some pics of the build in process and or screenshot some cpu-z scores. No rats nest either lolThanks for the help! BTW are there any other settings I need to fool with in bios or in good to go after I do the ram settings? I've never owned an msi board so wondering what other cool things it can do?!
Thanks for the help! BTW are there any other settings I need to fool with in bios or in good to go after I do the ram settings? I've never owned an msi board so wondering what other cool things it can do?!
I see the big xmp button but it's showing me I can turn the number 2 on or the number 1.. which one do I choose?That's just how the CPU works by default. It'll boost as needed (up to a certain speed) when you do more intensive tasks.
XMP/DOCP is a mode that allows your RAM to be clocked to a certain set of higher timings via one step. In your case, 3600 MHz...or 2x1800 MHz since you're likely running in dual channel mode. It should work sans any issues since you're on a good motherboard and have a common RAM type...but if it gives you stability issue, you might have to tinker with timings or back off of XMP/DOCP mode.
I have that board and enabling it is super easy. There's a big ass "XMP" button in the upper left of the BIOS. Just press that button, save it, and call it done.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/Core-Temp-setup.exe Is one i like.....im sure there are several that give same infoBump anyone here still? BTW what is a good temp monitor for amd cpus?
just a data glitch....between that being a newer board with several bios revisions a year and chipset drivers that go with it...the software is doing the best it can to report what it detects as a factual amount. Your board and cpu might be spiking at that freq, but its not really using that speed for sure. You see different results every mombo bios, driver update over time.....nothing to worry about for sure. I would double check it against what ryzen master says, not that it matters.Does this look normal one cpu is going to 5700?!
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master yea....i like coretemp for basic temp reporting 24/7....but if im looking for additional info ryzen master well is writtren by AMD and tweaked/updated for the newer cpus. it will do the best job at reporting clock speed for AM4Ryzen master? Is that another program?
It sounds like you are right in the area you want to be. If you spend most of your time in the 60s you are doing ok. Into the 70s for spikes is perfectly normal.What are safe temps or normal temps for a 5800x while gaming? Was playing bfV yesterday and had spikes in the 70s. But other games were mostly in the 60s. Every time my ac was running it would never go past 68 in bfv but as soon as ac was off it would spike into70s. I'm using my old corsair h100i cooler. My old Intel would usually only hit in mid 60s but I've never tried bfv on it..
What is the most accurate software for monitoring temps on the 5800x? What is the highest temps you want your Caputo spike up to? I really only noticed the 70s in bfv most other games were in the 60s but like I said a lot of it depended on what my thermostat is set to in the house. The room where my pc is house than the rest of the house bc it has a flat roofIt sounds like you are right in the area you want to be. If you spend most of your time in the 60s you are doing ok. Into the 70s for spikes is perfectly normal.
HWINFO64 is probably the best. There is a lot going on though.What is the most accurate software for monitoring temps on the 5800x? What is the highest temps you want your Caputo spike up to? I really only noticed the 70s in bfv most other games were in the 60s but like I said a lot of it depended on what my thermostat is set to in the house. The room where my pc is house than the rest of the house bc it has a flat roof