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Pachalski
Yes - CPU, GPU, RAM, VRM, & (especially) both front-mounted & rear-mounted M.2 NVMe SSD temps...!
Yes
Yes
Yes - Would love to see a custom loop with CPU & GPU; 240mm radiator & dual 120mm x 25mm fans up top (exhaust), 120mm x 25mm fan bottom back (intake, feeding fresh air over motherboard to cool VRM, RAM & M.2), forward bottom section for pump / reservoir combo (thinking EKWB 5 1/4" drive bay sized DDC combo, maybe facing GPU side & actually visible from exterior / mounted into 'Bottom Hat' side panel)... The single pump version of the EKWB DDC combo would allow room for cables since it is not as deep as the dual DDC pump combo version... Getting the plumbing clean would be the trick...
The real trick would be to just PACK the chassis with an ASRock X299 'Little Monster' mobo, i9 CPU, Titan Xp, 800w Silverstone SFX-L PSU, custom water cooling loop (see above) & custom length cables...!
18-cores / 32-threads, 64GB RAM, 2TB RAID 5, Titan Xp, 800w of power; with a custom loop...? Crazy...!
Maybe an Extreme Top Hat, able to fit a 60mm thick 240mm radiator & four 120mm x 25mm fans in push / pull...!?!
Last test is what I'd like to get, so I can better cool my m-itx build.Love the ideas! The more extreme approaches should be expected here, but we will leave the custom loop builds to the more skilled builders - happily providing the case.
How about this to start with, 6 different configs:
0.0 - Bare Spine: Open air rig with Noctua NH L9x65 as a baseline
0.1 - Base - XS: Closed case with Noctua NH L9x65
0.2 - XS+: Closed case with Noctua NH L9x65 with 120 case fan under PSU
0.3 - Extra Air - S: Closed case with Noctua NH L9x65 and S-TopHat with 2*120*15 mm case fans
0.4 - Max Air - M: Closed case with Noctua NH L9x65 and M-TopHat with 2*120*25 mm case fans
0.5 - Hydro - L: Closed case with 240 rad and 2*120*25 mm case fans
Yes - Would love to see a custom loop with CPU & GPU; 240mm radiator & dual 120mm x 25mm fans up top (exhaust), 120mm x 25mm fan bottom back (intake, feeding fresh air over motherboard to cool VRM, RAM & M.2), forward bottom section for pump / reservoir combo (thinking EKWB 5 1/4" drive bay sized DDC combo, maybe facing GPU side & actually visible from exterior / mounted into 'Bottom Hat' side panel)... The single pump version of the EKWB DDC combo would allow room for cables since it is not as deep as the dual DDC pump combo version... Getting the plumbing clean would be the trick...
The real trick would be to just PACK the chassis with an ASRock X299 'Little Monster' mobo, i9 CPU, Titan Xp, 800w Silverstone SFX-L PSU, custom water cooling loop (see above) & custom length cables...!
18-cores / 32-threads, 64GB RAM, 2TB RAID 5, Titan Xp, 800w of power; with a custom loop...? Crazy...!
Maybe an Extreme Top Hat, able to fit a 60mm thick 240mm radiator & four 120mm x 25mm fans in push / pull...!?!
Pachalski
Yes - CPU, GPU, RAM, VRM, & (especially) both front-mounted & rear-mounted M.2 NVMe SSD temps...!
Yes
Yes
Yes - Would love to see a custom loop with CPU & GPU; 240mm radiator & dual 120mm x 25mm fans up top (exhaust), 120mm x 25mm fan bottom back (intake, feeding fresh air over motherboard to cool VRM, RAM & M.2), forward bottom section for pump / reservoir combo (thinking EKWB 5 1/4" drive bay sized DDC combo, maybe facing GPU side & actually visible from exterior / mounted into 'Bottom Hat' side panel)... The single pump version of the EKWB DDC combo would allow room for cables since it is not as deep as the dual DDC pump combo version... Getting the plumbing clean would be the trick...
The real trick would be to just PACK the chassis with an ASRock X299 'Little Monster' mobo, i9 CPU, Titan Xp, 800w Silverstone SFX-L PSU, custom water cooling loop (see above) & custom length cables...!
18-cores / 32-threads, 64GB RAM, 2TB RAID 5, Titan Xp, 800w of power; with a custom loop...? Crazy...!
Maybe an Extreme Top Hat, able to fit a 60mm thick 240mm radiator & four 120mm x 25mm fans in push / pull...!?!
Hmmmmm.... so much billet. I would totally go for a CNC'ed case if they were available. The thought of how much it would cost though like your prototype makes me want to cry...
Clear coat...?
Clear coat...?
That's an option, I love the look of billet aluminum.
We have discussed a non colored but anodized version before in the launching line-up. But clear coat, that's something different, and potentially difficult with the fine tolerance levels.
We have discussed a non colored but anodized version before in the launching line-up. But clear coat, that's something different, and potentially difficult with the fine tolerance levels.
Have you considered offering different length panels in place of or in addition to the top hats? Just to get rid of the horizontal gap.
Hey, I work with a lot of aluminum for conduction cooled enclosures. We do a lot of clear conformal coating which goes on about the same thickness as our powdercoating. This conformal coat provides the normal protection benefits of conformal coat but is also very scratch resistant. I believe this is a Parylene type coating.
Conformal coat example (we tinted it to make it obvious there was a coating)
more photos pleaseWe have it, here is a picture of the prototype case. It is a raw untreated unit.
We managed to fit a NH-L 12 CPU cooler (bottom fan only) in it with no problem and it works like a dream. Dead quiet in our test rig even under load (i7 7700)!
The test report will be uploaded in a couple of hours.
I've been lurking here for a while, but I just made an account so I could say that looks beautiful. Is there a reason you tested the NH-L 12? Seems like an odd choice since you can't use both fans
We have tested several different CPU coolers, the NH-L 12 has so far been the best. It har enough distance to the side wall to completely eliminate turbulence, making it more silent than the rest. Another point we want to make is that it fits with it's 66 mm in height.
We have tested several different CPU coolers, the NH-L 12 has so far been the best. It har enough distance to the side wall to completely eliminate turbulence, making it more silent than the rest. Another point we want to make is that it fits with it's 66 mm in height.
Curious to know if you can mount the Noctua 120mm fan in the lower position? Seeing as you aren't mounting it on the top.
Not sure what you mean, but the side holes on the prototype look slightly larger due to chamferAre holes bigger thsn preavious? They are aestetics for me
Noctua may be changing the NH-L12 sometime soon...
"As far as new CPU coolers are concerned, Noctua showed an impending update of the existing NH-L12 heatsink that will use the new 120mm slim fan... "
Keep in mind, the above is from the 2016 Computex...
Two items of note...
1 - The maximum height with fan under heat sink is stated as 70mm
2 - The underside of said heat sink is now flat, as opposed to the inset for the 92mm fan that is present with the 'original' NH-L12
I would think the gap on the current NH-L12, when mounting a 120mm slim fan underneath, would lead to lesser cooling...
Possibility to use either version with the slim 120mm underneath, but would have to use ultra low profile RAM (which can be difficult to obtain)...
What has happened since then? Tho 'original' L12 is still on their homepage and available for purchasing here and there.
While it's interesting to hear about cooling options that fit without the use of a top hat, I really want to just see a 2x120mm CLC in this thing with the tall top hat! That was honestly the main draw of this case for me. I want to have an mITX case where I don't have to worry about thermal limits for overclocking. Did you guys get any top hats made for testing? Sorry if you already stated whether you did or not, I must have missed it.
Also, what are the final dimensions in mm? I'm interested in calculating the volume for the base case and the top hats. Maybe consider editing the first post to include some updated information since so many changes have been made.
Below a link to the test results. Conservative fan settings with the focus on minimizing noise levels.
Test resultat Alpha prototype
Thanks for the reply. Makes sense why you're waiting to update til things are finalized. Another quick question. The H100i V2 has a radiator that's 30mm thick. 30mm radiator + 25mm = 55mm, just under the 56mm of clearance in the L Top Hat. Would a cooler like Fractal Design’s Celsius S24 fit? It has a radiator thickness of 31mm, so it'd be 56mm total with fans, leaving no wiggle room. Just curious since it seems to be a really well performing 240mm AIO. Thanks.
You can fit DDR4 without heatspreader 31.2mm
With this measure:https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-h...50mm-heatsink.1925480/page-12#post-1042965038
From PCB MB to topside CPU = 7.3mm
Heatsink height = 66mm
Fin array height = 23mm (66-43)
PCB MB to DDR4 socket buttom = 2.4mm
Fan=15mm
7.3+66=>73.3-23-2.4=>47.9-15=>32.9mm max height memory