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I didn't necessarily mean bad future for AMD/Nvidia. Bad for consumers. Worse than the current situation already is, in fact.Maybe.
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I didn't necessarily mean bad future for AMD/Nvidia. Bad for consumers. Worse than the current situation already is, in fact.Maybe.
You could even upgrade to a 1030!!!Don't cry all.. you can still get a GT 710
Dude, I just want one of those!
They must have the A/C cranked... depending on how the cards are tuned that's btwn 10-25KW of heat being generated by the GPUs alone... How hot is it in that room...
When I had about 60 cards mining in a small room in the basement the floor of the room above it got so hot that my wife asked me if it was going to start a fire. When I worked in that room on a new project, I kid you not, I had to strip down to my underwear and had sweat literally dripping down my body and off my face. Our house AC had no chance of cooling that in the summer. I had the cards power limited to 70% with MSI afterburner. The HVAC system was immediately next to my mining equipment and open to the same air. To keep everything operating I set the HVAC fan to turn on every 30 minutes for 30 minutes. That helped spread the heat through the house.Never seen a mining rig(?) configured this way, several PC mainboards underneath? How hot is it in that room...
Gaming is a hobby and most people have multiple hobbies that they can spend the money on and then if their pc gets outdated they stop buying newer games which lowers their interest in gaming even more and they slowly transition into focusing mostly on the other hobby.Let's be honest here, they do not need to give a damn either. If you want to game on a PC with decent graphics, you are going to buy one of thier cards (assuming you can find one) whether you like them or not. Otherwise; you will end up on a console; which guess what, still uses GPUs....
It sucks; but that is the state of things. I was pissed as hell it took me 4 months to get a card, but guess what, I still bought one because I love high end gaming.
I had to lean more toward PC after ammo prices spiked... haha.Gaming is a hobby and most people have multiple hobbies that they can spend the money on and then if their pc gets outdated they stop buying newer games which lowers their interest in gaming even more and they slowly transition into focusing mostly on the other hobby.
I'm not speaking in a hypothetical sense either, I know a couple people that have basically stopped spending money on pc games and hardware and are instead spending the money that they would have on racing drones for one and fishing gear and guns for the other. Both of them got tired of high prices and poor availability of GPUs during the height of the crypto nonsense and still haven't upgraded anything since then.
Gaming is a hobby and most people have multiple hobbies that they can spend the money on and then if their pc gets outdated they stop buying newer games which lowers their interest in gaming even more and they slowly transition into focusing mostly on the other hobby.
Thanks, well maybe next year.From what I have been told, MC gets deliveries on Tues/Wed/Fri
Early last year I was buying the 8GB ASROCK RX570 for about $125 shipped.Unreal... i don't recall, but were RX 570 (8gb varieties) sub $200 .. maybe even lower when released.. sub-$179 or possibly lower..
These just went up $20 from yesterday
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I bought a Power Color Red Dragon RX 570 8Gb with two free AAA games on Black Friday for $149 in 2018 .. still have the card and games .Unreal... i don't recall, but were RX 570 (8gb varieties) sub $200 .. maybe even lower when released.. sub-$179 or possibly lower..
These just went up $20 from yesterday
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So what's the answer? Or even a way to find out the truth? Congressional investigation? Just kidding. Maybe it is the scalpers, who are now making a pile of money selling to the miners?I admit I have started to think this as well. The current world situation has been going on since March. Considering the months long process to manufacture and ship these things, I could see lack of availability September through December. But at this point? There is no way manufacturers and shippers haven’t figured out ways to work more around obstacles, despite new constraints. I teach at a big state university and I can tell you that while spring was a sh*tshow, fall was hard but we figured most processes out, and on this 2021 spring semester that just started we got things on lock until normality returns with the vaccine. If a bunch of academics can figure it out, you’re telling me that some of the best engineers in the world can’t? (I don’t mean YOU you,but a rhetorical you).
Yeah, I’m not buying it anymore. COVID isn’t a magical explanation for everything. Crypto is a factor, but not enough to dry up virtually all demand. Enough to raise prices and make things hard to buy? Sure. To completely disintegrate availability? No way. Why are such few cards shipping to stores in the first place? Nvidia’s recent earnings I read about pointed to a bunch of sold gpus. Where are the products to buy? They can’t all be snatched by miners, and considering the enthusiasts we hear from here, it ain’t - majority of gamers either. And if it were the case, where are the consumer protection laws? Because scalping is far from respecting capitalistic demand and offer.
I honestly don't know. But if this spring we start seeing "normal" availability of the new 60, 70 and 80 cards, that'll tell me that Nvidia got caught off guard with AMD's releases and they're slyly downplaying the current card production to be fully taken over by the new refreshed models, before the actual 2021 Super refresh happens.So what's the answer? Or even a way to find out the truth? Congressional investigation? Just kidding. Maybe it is the scalpers, who are now making a pile of money selling to the miners?
We could be at "normal" production levels but with the crypto craze spiking back up and the backlog of demand still not extinguished it's still not enough.I honestly don't know. But if this spring we start seeing "normal" availability of the new 60, 70 and 80 cards, that'll tell me that Nvidia got caught off guard with AMD's releases and they're slyly downplaying the current card production to be fully taken over by the new refreshed models, before the actual 2021 Super refresh happens.
Well of course it won't be enough. But crypto isn't the only reason why we're facing absolute dried supply. This crypto craze has given no indication of being any worse than the last one, and last time you could buy more cards, pretty regularly. Now there's just nothing to buy, most of the time. So normal production levels, if we achieve them, would give thousands of gamers a chance to buy something at close to MSRP. Sure it'll still be challenging, but crypto pressure is better than whatever has been going on for the past few months.We could be at "normal" production levels but with the crypto craze spiking back up and the backlog of demand still not extinguished it's still not enough.
It might also mean that Samsung is getting better yields though I wouldn't downplay NV wanting to sell higher margin products. Just normal business from what I can tell. Every public company wants to maximize profit for stockholders.I honestly don't know. But if this spring we start seeing "normal" availability of the new 60, 70 and 80 cards, that'll tell me that Nvidia got caught off guard with AMD's releases and they're slyly downplaying the current card production to be fully taken over by the new refreshed models, before the actual 2021 Super refresh happens.
Well I mentioned we have not even extinguished the demand backlog yet. We need higher than normal supply was my point just to do that.Well of course it won't be enough. But crypto isn't the only reason why we're facing absolute dried supply. This crypto craze has given no indication of being any worse than the last one, and last time you could buy more cards, pretty regularly. Now there's just nothing to buy, most of the time. So normal production levels, if we achieve them, would give thousands of gamers a chance to buy something at close to MSRP. Sure it'll still be challenging, but crypto pressure is better than whatever has been going on for the past few months.
I think it's crypto.Well of course it won't be enough. But crypto isn't the only reason why we're facing absolute dried supply. This crypto craze has given no indication of being any worse than the last one, and last time you could buy more cards, pretty regularly. Now there's just nothing to buy, most of the time. So normal production levels, if we achieve them, would give thousands of gamers a chance to buy something at close to MSRP. Sure it'll still be challenging, but crypto pressure is better than whatever has been going on for the past few months.
your Ashes mGPU score will be thru the roof!Well, time to rig up some quadocto SLI with gtx1030
Well I ran out of slots to put graphics cards in except for TR system which I just got working again. Not too keen on using that system for mining. I thought I lost out in not selling my older cards, now they are turning into gold dust.Well, time to rig up some quadocto SLI with gtx1030
OK, then it would be time to find a web store in Hong Kong ,Tokyo ,Singapore , or Seoul, if the site has content in English.Don't assume that America or other Western nations are the first on the list.
Instead of shipping these cards to the USA, perhaps it's cheaper and more convenient to sell them in the nearby Asian markets.
Well I ran out of slots to put graphics cards in except for TR system.... Not too keen on using that system for mining.
Stretching the legs on your 1080ti by an O/C is not an 85% FPS improvement like moving to a 3080.Funny think about all cards being OOS.. it's forced me to stop being lazy and optimize my current setup. Probably saved me some $$$ if I can fend off the upgradeitis.
I cranked up my CPU, memory and 1080ti OC's and did more adjustments to visual settings in games like BF5.
I can probably easily hold off for some time now unless there is a new game release that I cannot play at decent settings. This "old" SLI setup still has some teeth.