MikeTrike
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In other news and to lighten the mood. I'm interested in this.
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In other news and to lighten the mood.
Have you ever lit a test tube 1/8th full of hydrogen? Now imagine that spread out over 30-40 cubic feet.DUmb question. But i was under the impression that if a hydrogen tank ruptures, it cant explode, just like if you cut a natural gas line, it cant explode. It cant mix with oxgen fast enough to cause an explosion. Well at least if it was leaking outside the car. Pretty sure if it ruptured inside the cab, or inside the house, yea everyone would be dead of deaf.
What is this?
BTW, there is a lot wrong with this table. How much of the car do these 'car companies' produce themselves vs tesla for example.
If any oil company reps are reading, I will happily take a job scouring newswires for any stories that portray EVs and Tesla in particular as unsafe deathtraps.
how so? he wants a job with big oil to demonize EVs.?
You realize tesla's use a huge fucking amount of oil right. So does everything else, including the food you eat. This is a nonsensical statement.
BTW, there is a lot wrong with this table. How much of the car do these 'car companies' produce themselves vs tesla for example.
How many inspections (its not the same when you are opening vs up and running inspections)
Looks like a protection racket to me.
im sorry you wont catch me in a tesla ever.
I mean shit, if EVs are so dangerous, we should ban phones too because they have batteries in them.
Cooking the books, in modern America? I think i peed a little.Its self explanatory, its a chart of tsla's osha violations. Here's a link to the article which basically discusses how tsla is cooking its books. There's a lot of investor sentiment these days that's negative for tsla.
how so? he wants a job with big oil to demonize EVs.
The automatic door handles and lithium batteries are why this is a worse problem than an ICE car.
In a high speed crash, there are two areas where the Tesla door handles can fail (electrical/mechanical), instead of one (mechanical).
Secondly, lithium catches on fire when it is exposed to AIR - gas requires an ignition source. There is also a much greater surface area for lithium to be exposed - the batteries run underneath most of the entire body, versus just inside the rear wheels.
Despite its defenders, this would make Teslas inherently more dangerous.
The automatic door handles and lithium batteries are why this is a worse problem than an ICE car.
In a high speed crash, there are two areas where the Tesla door handles can fail (electrical/mechanical), instead of one (mechanical).
Secondly, lithium catches on fire when it is exposed to AIR - gas requires an ignition source. There is also a much greater surface area for lithium to be exposed - the batteries run underneath most of the entire body, versus just inside the rear wheels.
Despite its defenders, this would make Teslas inherently more dangerous.
I like this idea......
Driver dies in crash because he was speeding. That's what I get out of this.
People get trapped in car crashes all the time and some even die from the car catching fire and no one being able to get them out of the car in time.
It most certainly is not the fault of the car.
Depending on how the car was damaged from hitting the tree the door could have been compressed in a way that not even a normal door handle would have worked.
Random people saying door handles didn't work is a non point in this. It is why they have "jaws of life" to open up cars with trapped people because the door handles and door are damaged into a non working condition.
Just more sensational "Tesla bad!" story.
derp nothing. you dont make any sense. who the fuck cares how much "oil" is in it, he just wants a job demonizing them.28 gallons just in the tires, not telling how much more in the plasticy interior.
derp
derp nothing. you dont make any sense. who the fuck cares how much "oil" is in it, he just wants a job demonizing them.
Correct me if im wrong but the Model S has an emergency manual door release? Its required by law.
The issue is how one frames the "problem." One could discuss the growing concern over rising cancer rates but it'd be an incomplete analysis without acknowledging the rising average lifespan along with it. The longer one lives, the more one is prone to mutations like cancer. More people might be dying from cancer now but they are living longer, in general.That wasn't my point at all. Minutes should be plenty of time to get someone out of a crashed car baring some other factor. Whether or not it was a defect in the car is something that should be looked into. I mean if the handles stay recessed and people outside can't open doors...that's a problem. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen....just that it could very easily be a car defect.
The problem here is that since the air bags did not deflate, It was damn hard to get the guy out of the car with a closed door before the fire halted the rescue. Whoever made the airbags has a lot of 'splainin to do.
as stated above, break glass, deflate airbag, pull guy out? they had minutes to watch it happen. speaking of, no cam footage? not that i want to watch a dude burn alive but they are everywhere now...Class 101: "How to break a car window and deflate an air bag with a sharp object".
as stated above, break glass, deflate airbag, pull guy out? they had minutes to watch it happen. speaking of, no cam footage? not that i want to watch a dude burn alive but they are everywhere now...
Trying to compare this to a combustion-engine crash is not going to work. Gasoline fires do not rage for *days* after they've been put out--do not reach thousands of degrees--and no gasoline vehicle today can burn to the ground, almost to ash, in under five minutes! Tesla battery fires are something to be greatly feared, imo--far more so than petrol tanks, no question about that at all. Most likely, the guy burned to death before he could be helped.
guess notI guess that you are more awesome than the people that were there.
“Davie police spokeswoman Vivian Gallinal says the car hit some palm trees and burst into flames Sunday afternoon crash. An officer was nearby and tried to break the car’s window, but couldn’t get the driver out.”
We had only a couple of min.
My husband tried to break the back window out. The airbags didn’t deflate after the crash and trapped the person inside. We couldn’t even see inside the car because all of the bags filled the car.
guess not
the cop should have had a break tool. side current airbags will hang there and cover the windows. maybe that is what they were seeing and assumed.
No officer that I've ever worked with would have any trouble breaking a typical car window with any type of metallic tool. Pretty sure I could do it with my radio without much trouble if I had to.