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thnx for posting it.
heres the important part for those not watching. still really impressed by the pa120.
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thnx for posting it.
heres the important part for those not watching. still really impressed by the pa120.
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I have been considering getting a phantom spirit for a while now. But it wasn't in this review right? Just the Peerless assassin? I had to skim through the video cuz I haven't had enough time to wash the whole thing thoroughly.I just bought a PA SE for $34.XX on Amazon right now. I really can't believe it's that cheap. I look forward to trying it out.
the PS is just a tiny bit better. so i would guess it would come in on par with the d15, based on this vids tests.I have been considering getting a phantom spirit for a while now. But it wasn't in this review right? Just the Peerless assassin? I had to skim through the video cuz I haven't had enough time to wash the whole thing thoroughly.
Friday night when I'm chilling after work at the rig imma see about ordering a PS for the 2nd rig thanks.the PS is just a tiny bit better. so i would guess it would come in on par with the d15, based on this vids tests.
Adding a 3rd fan really doesn't help any. The 2bd fan barely helps much. You get to the point you are removing heat away faster then heatsink can draw.I got a PA120 for the 5820k in my backup rig. It's an old CPU but it's a heat monster when overclocked @ 4.5Ghz. It used to push my old H100i GTX to it's limit. The CM 212 Evo I have on there right now, even with 2 fans in push-pull on an aggressive fan curve, is a joke and it will BSOD in about 10 seconds if I run Prime95. I think the overclocked 5820k actually puts out more heat than my overclocked 5900X did (before I swapped it out for a 5800X3D). I needed something decent, but don't want to deal with an AIO in a backup rig. This should work nicely. I thought about the PS120 but the PA120 is the only one I saw that still specifically lists 2011-V3 compatibility; better safe than sorry.
I was very surprised that they don't offer an easy way to buy extra fan clips. Is it not common to add a 3rd fan?
Adding a 3rd fan really doesn't help any. The 2bd fan barely helps much. You get to the point you are removing heat away faster then heatsink can draw.
I did a bench shootout between my PA120 (non SE) and a PS120SE, and the PA120 is a little better....
Same settings for both. With the Silent Wings 4 fan in the middle and T30 on the back.
Looking closer at the PS120SE, the base is bigger and the two outer heatpipes do not fully sit on the CPU, and it does have less fins.
Shorter in height, and the rear fan also sits above the fins
Even Quaserzone found the PA120 to be slightly better than the PS120SE on an 12900k.....
PA120 that is, never had the PA120SE which would be similar in height to the PS120SE
Your milegae may vary....
https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_qsz/v...ject&page=1&popularity=&sort=num, reply&type=
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My tests today -
PS120SE
test 1 - AidA64 -
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Test 2 - Cinebench20
Aida64
PA120
test 1 - Cinebench20
Aida64
PA120
test 2 - Cinebench20
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The pa120 and se have the exact same fin stack. The se doesn't have the Thermalright heatsink cap, like the 120 does. See the last picture in your post. The pa120 is 157mm tall due to the cap. The se is 155mm. And the fans are different. Same specs but different models. Those are the only differences iirc.Phantom Spirit 120
just got released - it measures 157mm, so it appears to have the same fin stack height as the PA120
All the PA120 models should be the same, but the SE models are different - shorter, less fins,
Now the new PS120, non SE, remains to be seen if it performs better than the PA120
The pa120 and se have the exact same fin stack. The se doesn't have the Thermalright heatsink cap, like the 120 does. See the last picture in your post. The pa120 is 157mm tall due to the cap. The se is 155mm. And the fans are different. Same specs but different models. Those are the only differences iirc.
PA120
TL-C12B FAN Spec:
Dimension:L120 mm x W120 mm x H25 mm
Weight:135g
Rated Speed:1550 RPM±10% (MAX)
Noise Level:25.6 dBA
Air Flow:66.17 CFM (MAX)
Air Pressure:1.53mm H2O (MAX)
Ampere:0.20 A
Connector:4 Pin (PWM Fan connector)
Bearing Type : S-FDB Bearing
PA120se
TL-C12C FAN Spec:
Dimension:L120 mm x W120 mm x H25 mm
Weight:120g
Rated Speed:1550 RPM±10% (MAX)
Noise Level:25.6 dBA
Air Flow:66.17 CFM (MAX)
Air Pressure:1.53mm H2O (MAX)
Ampere:0.20 A
Connector:4 Pin (PWM Fan connector)
Bearing Type : S-FDB Bearing
Mmmnah I don't do bilibili links, thanks.PA120 has more fins and is taller than the PS120SE, which is similar to the PA120SE.
the SE models are budget versions.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vG4y1x7c1/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.7
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not "just", its on page 2, with all my side by side pics...Phantom Spirit 120
just got released
you need to use the stock fans for this.Same settings for both. With the Silent Wings 4 fan in the middle and T30 on the back.
While true I rather get a PA120 for nearly 1/3 the price and negligible performance.Noctua has never failed me.
Kinda hard for any metal heatsink with a fan to fail...Noctua has never failed me.
looks like theyre working on getting a new D15 and new 140mm fans out for next year. their tests are showing 2-4c improvement. should put them back on top, for a price.Noctua has never failed me.
Finally got the PA120SE installed; swapped it from my ID-Cooling SE-226-XT.
Crazy having them both side by side.. how large the single tower SE-226-XT is... its a beast for a single tower heatsink.
Looking at the specs.. its obvious... the SE-226-XT comes in at 910g total weight (heatsink + fan) compared to the PA120SE's 850g total weight (heatsink + fan)... these are approximate though, as I am using a Phanteks PH-F120MP in place of the stock fan.
Also due to clearance issues, I am using just the single PH-F120MP in the middle of the twin towers... Seems to not be an issue though with the single fan and looks great in the rig (if you are into that sort of thing)
Appears to be about 1 to 1.5 c improvement at idle... but.. that can be chalked up to margin of error... better thermal paste application... etc... etc...
There are some metal heatsink out there with poor performance...Kinda hard for any metal heatsink with a fan to fail...
Already got my eyes on themlooks like theyre working on getting a new D15 and new 140mm fans out for next year. their tests are showing 2-4c improvement. should put them back on top, for a price.
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Sure. Intel used to make em. You'd be hard pressed to find a modern one that just doesn't cool.There are some metal heatsink out there with poor performance...
Overpriced.Noctua NH-D15
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the pa120 beats it with just a bit more noise, and then theres the price...Noctua NH-D15
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But muh brown fans!There are a lot of coolers that are as good or better than D15 for sure.
And that has been the case for years now..
They will always have their placeBut muh brown fans!
There are a lot of coolers that are as good or better than D15 for sure.
And that has been the case for years now..