Consumers Save $8,870 Annually By Having Broadband

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So this is why the government wants to tax the internet. Its all the money we've been saving! :rolleyes:

The study takes the average cost of broadband for most users per year ($490, or $40 a month, insists Pew Research), the average U.S. household income before taxes of $63,685, then mashes it with selective nuggets of data from the U.S. Department of Labor to calculate the theoretical savings. Interestingly, one of the only things that got more expensive to do online with your broadband connection was consume news, thanks primarily to the growth of paywalls.
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is the average of 40 bucks a month accurate? I'm just curious since i'm in canada and i pay 60 :/
 
hesho said:
is the average of 40 bucks a month accurate? I'm just curious since i'm in canada and i pay 60 :/
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Not for Comcast users (or at least myself).

Paying $72 a month for their second tier (Blast?), first tier is about $10 cheaper..
 
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I call BS.

They use things like that average US household income....and then define housing savings based on apartments? If you're looking at the average household, then you need to look at the average household across the board (ie. mortgage and 2.3 kids). You can't pick and choose the categories based on whatever happens to save the most.

This "broadband savings" article is full of crap like above. Misconstrued data is misconstrued.
 
What a load of shit. These figures are even worse than piracy estimates.
 
This is bullshit. Compared to the money I spend on computers and internet, I don't save a damn thing.
 
If I had no internet I would probably save 10's of thousands per year. Then again, I would have to go back to old Sears Catalogs for porn.
 
That's bullshit man for real.

They don't even take account for all the bangbros. subscriptions, Joe Rogan kettle bells, and fleshlights. Such a biased report.
 
achieves these numbers by estimating the money saved by broadband users through only cost comparison, access to "a deeper inventory" of items, and the gas saved by not having to drive to brick-and-mortar stores.
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So basically they do like supermarkets and do a bag of "name brand" items and their "generic" and say how much you can save.
 
I'm sure I save at least $8,870 last year downloading Linux Disto's :)
 
Looks like liberal propaganda to justify forcing me to donate my money in taxes so others can get cheaper internet.

Maiks sens 2 me.

If net access saves people money, then people in middle America save 2 to 4 times as much by paying 50-75% less for dialup. Broadband is a luxury, people, not a right.
 
What? You don't buy a brand new car each year? Also please tell me where I can buy 758 gallons of gas for $161 ($0.21/gallon).
 
-PK- said:
What? You don't buy a brand new car each year? Also please tell me where I can buy 758 gallons of gas for $161 ($0.21/gallon).
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Oops, I read that backwards. Saved 21 cents per gallon. Still idk where you could do that.
 
So that is what's keeping people alive day to day during these struggling times ;)
 
I have made this horrible statement on these forums before "Remember people your poor because you pirate"

now that the Gov is actually using this angle I really just want to leave this society behind and never turn back.
 
even if this is wrong. when buying online you trade taxes for service charges.deliveries,insurerance on said items. and in most cases is more then the taxes if you would just go pick it up
 
I find most of these numbers to be of dubious reliability. I find it hard to believe people save $1000 on food by comparing prices online, since most people do all their shopping for the week at a single store. I don't think going to 5 different stores to get the absolute best prices would be worth the time wasted anyway.
 
P4B said:
even if this is wrong. when buying online you trade taxes for service charges.deliveries,insurerance on said items. and in most cases is more then the taxes if you would just go pick it up
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I think you are overstating those online costs for the most part though. Sure if you are making $5 orders the shipping is going to offset the savings, but for any reasonable size order the shipping is usually much cheaper than taxes would be. For example the shipping on a $250 video card on Newegg is $0-$8, whereas the tax on a $250 card locally would be $19 here (and that's assuming you can get the card as cheaply as you can online, which usually isn't the case).

If you buy a lot of stuff online you can get very low shipping costs too with things like Amazon Prime.
 
travbrad said:
I find most of these numbers to be of dubious reliability. I find it hard to believe people save $1000 on food by comparing prices online, since most people do all their shopping for the week at a single store. I don't think going to 5 different stores to get the absolute best prices would be worth the time wasted anyway.
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I don't save a dime on food because of the internet. Dubious reliability? You're being to polite. :D
 
There is no way having broadband saves a 65k income family 15% of their income. That's idiotic.
 
-PK- said:
What? You don't buy a brand new car each year? Also please tell me where I can buy 758 gallons of gas for $161 ($0.21/gallon).
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Yeah a family living on 65k buys a brand new 30k car every year. That's totally reasonable, and the person who calculated that isn't a moronic asshole at all.
 
The numbers for this are even more idiotic than I imagined:

Annual income BEFORE TAXES: $63,685
Total amount spent: $65,523

:rolleyes:
 
Aluisious said:
The numbers for this are even more idiotic than I imagined:

Annual income BEFORE TAXES: $63,685
Total amount spent: $65,523

:rolleyes:
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You don't believe the average $65k household doesn't live within its means?

The car and the housing are financed & mortgaged. The travel and (probably) the gas and a few other things are on credit.
 
How does the Internet save me $0.21 a gallon on gas? I don't know one person that routinely shops for best gas prices, especially on the web. I hear it on the radio and tv, but I don't do it active.

It doesn't matter, cause this all theoretical Internet dollars anyways.
 
Mehlman's a lobbyist paid to influence people. His creative $ amounts must be working for whoever paid him.
 
GaryJohnson said:
You don't believe the average $65k household doesn't live within its means?

The car and the housing are financed & mortgaged. The travel and (probably) the gas and a few other things are on credit.
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If you actually make payments, those things drain money from a person over their lifetime. So averaging things out, buying things on credit doesn't create additional purchasing power.

Now if you go bankrupt and somehow keep your house or a get a sizable modification and keep your house, that is different.
 
jpm100 said:
If you actually make payments, those things drain money from a person over their lifetime. So averaging things out, buying things on credit doesn't create additional purchasing power.

Now if you go bankrupt and somehow keep your house or a get a sizable modification and keep your house, that is different.
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I don't see how they even drain money. The sort of people I know who start life off spending more than they earn stay desperate their entire lives. Putting together $1k in actual cash is a minor miracle.
 
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