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So as you guys know, I started My Dangerden experience thread. To Dennis' wishes, I'm going to test the MC-TDX vs Dtek Fuzion.
I wont do any special 1v1 testing for you for theoretically values. I wont test flow rate.
I am purely going to test a real life loop consisting of CPU>>Chipset>>GPU>>Rad>>Res>>Pump.
The CPU WB comparison and results will be given as a set of temperatures and ease of installation. I will edit this first post and my subsequent posts will have my worklog and final project.
Here is what I'm testing: Which CPU WB is better is my 3+ block loop? Obviously we know the MC-TDX is freer flowing than a Dtek Fuzion, so will this effect Chipset and GPU temperatures?
Under full load, I will report temps with each of a e3110(e8400 alternative) x38 chipset and an 8800gtx. May include overclocked temps too.
Here is the comparison:
First things first between the DTek and the MC-TDX. Their stock mounting systems are almost the same. To tell you the truth, I hate the stock mounting systems for both. I give a thumbs up to Dtek because the mounts come pre-built so you know how it looks together. Another plus to the Dtek is that the bottom of the column is a screw head, which is fixed to the screw. I like this vs the DD system of using a nut that can theoretically come undone while moving and assembling the block. Needless to say when I installed the x38 block, I used red loctite to the backside nut as it will no longer come off.
MC-TDX Top, DTek Fuzion bottom
The plus to the MC-TDX is the Aluminum plate has all the Intel/AMD mounting holes on one piece, which is screwed into the MC-TDX which makes things a whole lot easier. The DTek is a little bit more fussy to install since you have to balance the pressure on the WB until you get it snug.
MC-TDX left, DTek plates right
Lastly, and the main difference why Im liking the Dtek better so far is that since I knew I was only going to be using it for Intel platforms, I bought the pro-mount LGA775 kit. This kit makes the mounting much easier, as it uses a backplate. The mounting is exactly like a TRUE 120, minus the wiggle! Also I feel that with most water cooling pieces, a back plate should be used. As with high end, large air coolers, there is tremendous lateral force with the weight of the block, water, and tubing. I dont think 4x 1/8th inch wide screw heads is enough to hold it tight.
Pic of both the Dtek and the MPC-x38 custom:
-1 Dtek
OKAY HERE IS WHAT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR:
DTek fuzion:
After 8 hours or orthos and rthdribl to stress both CPU and GPU this is the temps. Now since my ram wont let the CPU past 3648, I bumped the voltages up to 1.325v to increase heat production in hopes to produce a larger detla between the two blocks.
~19C ambient temp(65-67F)
core0 44C ave 46C max
core1 35C ave 39C max
chipset 34C
GPU 612/135-/939 38C ave 50C max
Danger Den MC TDX:
~8 hours orthos and rthdribl at same settings
~19C ambient temp
Core0 47C ave 48C max
core1 38C ave 39C max
Chipset 35C
chipset 34C
GPU 612/135-/939 50C ave/max
Conclusion:
So we see here that the Dtek Did cool the CPU block better, and allowed the chipset and GPU to run cooler. We saw a 3C higher average temperature out of the cores when using the MC-TDX over the Dtek. Also, the chipset did run 1C cooler with the Dtek, at 2C cooler on GPU with Dtek.
Halfway through this test, I realized I was being unfair to the Dangerden block. First of all I'm using the pro-mount kit with the Dtek, and I'm also using a 5.5mm nozzle on it. We can note that the nozzle kit aids in accelerating the water over the cores, thus lowering the temperature. It has been show it's effictiveness by others. Also we note that people have seen a decrease in temps by just adding the Pro-mount kit. If these two additions lower the Temps of the Dtek block by 1-3C, I say we have a pretty dead match between the two, stock.
Also to be noted, I would seriously doubt that one block is going to reduce performance of the system. I dont see these intel chips on water hitting their limit because of temps.
More pics to be added
I wont do any special 1v1 testing for you for theoretically values. I wont test flow rate.
I am purely going to test a real life loop consisting of CPU>>Chipset>>GPU>>Rad>>Res>>Pump.
The CPU WB comparison and results will be given as a set of temperatures and ease of installation. I will edit this first post and my subsequent posts will have my worklog and final project.
Here is what I'm testing: Which CPU WB is better is my 3+ block loop? Obviously we know the MC-TDX is freer flowing than a Dtek Fuzion, so will this effect Chipset and GPU temperatures?
Under full load, I will report temps with each of a e3110(e8400 alternative) x38 chipset and an 8800gtx. May include overclocked temps too.
Here is the comparison:
First things first between the DTek and the MC-TDX. Their stock mounting systems are almost the same. To tell you the truth, I hate the stock mounting systems for both. I give a thumbs up to Dtek because the mounts come pre-built so you know how it looks together. Another plus to the Dtek is that the bottom of the column is a screw head, which is fixed to the screw. I like this vs the DD system of using a nut that can theoretically come undone while moving and assembling the block. Needless to say when I installed the x38 block, I used red loctite to the backside nut as it will no longer come off.
MC-TDX Top, DTek Fuzion bottom
The plus to the MC-TDX is the Aluminum plate has all the Intel/AMD mounting holes on one piece, which is screwed into the MC-TDX which makes things a whole lot easier. The DTek is a little bit more fussy to install since you have to balance the pressure on the WB until you get it snug.
MC-TDX left, DTek plates right
Lastly, and the main difference why Im liking the Dtek better so far is that since I knew I was only going to be using it for Intel platforms, I bought the pro-mount LGA775 kit. This kit makes the mounting much easier, as it uses a backplate. The mounting is exactly like a TRUE 120, minus the wiggle! Also I feel that with most water cooling pieces, a back plate should be used. As with high end, large air coolers, there is tremendous lateral force with the weight of the block, water, and tubing. I dont think 4x 1/8th inch wide screw heads is enough to hold it tight.
Pic of both the Dtek and the MPC-x38 custom:
-1 Dtek
OKAY HERE IS WHAT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR:
DTek fuzion:
After 8 hours or orthos and rthdribl to stress both CPU and GPU this is the temps. Now since my ram wont let the CPU past 3648, I bumped the voltages up to 1.325v to increase heat production in hopes to produce a larger detla between the two blocks.
~19C ambient temp(65-67F)
core0 44C ave 46C max
core1 35C ave 39C max
chipset 34C
GPU 612/135-/939 38C ave 50C max
Danger Den MC TDX:
~8 hours orthos and rthdribl at same settings
~19C ambient temp
Core0 47C ave 48C max
core1 38C ave 39C max
Chipset 35C
chipset 34C
GPU 612/135-/939 50C ave/max
Conclusion:
So we see here that the Dtek Did cool the CPU block better, and allowed the chipset and GPU to run cooler. We saw a 3C higher average temperature out of the cores when using the MC-TDX over the Dtek. Also, the chipset did run 1C cooler with the Dtek, at 2C cooler on GPU with Dtek.
Halfway through this test, I realized I was being unfair to the Dangerden block. First of all I'm using the pro-mount kit with the Dtek, and I'm also using a 5.5mm nozzle on it. We can note that the nozzle kit aids in accelerating the water over the cores, thus lowering the temperature. It has been show it's effictiveness by others. Also we note that people have seen a decrease in temps by just adding the Pro-mount kit. If these two additions lower the Temps of the Dtek block by 1-3C, I say we have a pretty dead match between the two, stock.
Also to be noted, I would seriously doubt that one block is going to reduce performance of the system. I dont see these intel chips on water hitting their limit because of temps.
More pics to be added
