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Great post, Mark!
Also, for those keeping up with the updates: I found a German site that reviewed a pre-release unit.
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph...t-asus-vg248qe-spiele-monitor-mit-144-hz.html
Translates well with Chrome.
Enjoy!
- There is a crimson tint. It becomes more subdued if I raise the Contrast in BENQ's OSD to above "43", but it starts clipping colors.
- I see the faint horizontal lines at the upper-right, but only when LightBoost is enabled. This appears to be a normal LightBoost artifact for a BENQ.
- The ASUS colors does look look better at desktop. I don't notice in games though; the BENQ actually is slightly sharper looking because it is smaller (24" rather than 27").
Preliminary BENQ XL2411T observations
I want to keep most of my data for a detailed web page, but I will post some preliminary data. LightBoost works as advertised, following my own instructions (I now have more screenshots for the series of steps to install an EDID override file, will post those in the next month or two.
When enabling LightBoost:
- BENQ is a much, much better panel from a trailing-artifact perspective. This is the most impressive aspect of the BENQ.
- There is a crimson tint. It becomes more subdued if I raise the Contrast in BENQ's OSD to above "43", but it starts clipping colors.
- The well-known "BENQ AMA coronas" completely disappears.
- When LightBoost is MAX in monitor's OSD, the LightBoost Brightness on BENQ at contrast 50 is similar to ASUS at contrast 90.
- I see the faint horizontal lines at the upper-right, but only when LightBoost is enabled. This appears to be a normal LightBoost artifact for a BENQ.
- The ASUS colors does look look better at desktop. I don't notice in games though; the BENQ actually is slightly sharper looking because it is smaller (24" rather than 27").
- The LCD inversion artifacts are much less on the BENQ than on the ASUS. LightBoost does not amplify inversion artifacts on the BENQ nearly as much as it does on ASUS.
- LightBoost doesn't seem brighter on the BENQ than ASUS. (The most surprising aspect)
- I need to do more tests on MPRT, but preliminary MPRT of about 1.9ms from default settings, but if I set LightBoost down to 10% (not OFF) via monitor's OSD, I'm able to get MPRT 1.4ms. That's a much dimmer image. I need to verify I'm reproducing the same test conditions that Vega is.
That said, the most impressive aspect of BENQ: During LightBoost, the crosstalk between refreshes is darn near practically zero to the eye (Less than 1% for sure -- possibly about 0.5% inter-frame GtG pixel persistence leakage). The LightBoost-specific response time compensation (non-adjustable when LightBoost enabled) is very good. This is very, very good for 3D glasses, as this will mean you won't notice 3D crosstalk with these "1ms" panels. During 2D motion, there isn't even a faint 'sharp faint doubled-up edge' minor artifact that is seen on the ASUS VG278H. I will attempt to have high-speed camera comparisions of both the BENQ vs ASUS refresh within a month or two.
Although very hard to tell since both are zero motion blur LCD's, due to fewer side effect artifacts (except crimson tint), motion looks slightly better on BENQ, and the BENQ is well known to have less input lag. If competitive FPS gamers are looking an answer -- the BENQ input lag will win out.
you forget that Benq XL2411T have a very bad ag coating with dirty / grainy look
I know there are some people that have removed the AG on their monitors using a certain procedure where you dampen the AG for a few hours and then peel it off. I wonder if that would work on this monitor? I really don't like AG coatings, but it seems they all have them these days
Curious what the Lighboost2 in 2D gaming results will be on this one.
It looks like the two current front runners are very close in results. You can change the brightness in the OSD, but the BenQ seems to have a crimson tint where the Asus does not.
This was Mark R's preliminary results post in the lightboost2 thread, but it was comparing the two current front runners.. an ASUS VG278HE - 144Hz to a BENQ XL2411T (not the yet to be released 24" Asus VG248QE 144hz 3D Vision 2 (1ms) that this thread is dedicated to). I know the BenQ XL2411T and the Asus VG248QE have the same panel, but I wonder if any difference in their other circuitry will yield different results - especially in relation to the crimson tint and lines in the upper corner.
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I know there are some people that have removed the AG on their monitors using a certain procedure where you dampen the AG for a few hours and then peel it off. I wonder if that would work on this monitor? I really don't like AG coatings, but it seems they all have them these days
I just pre-ordered 3 of them thru Amazon....
I had amazing experience with amazon, got a DOA 60" TV, returned it without any hassles.
amazon also has 3% cashback with their CC.. ends up being only $270 shipped
going to give time for pros here and review sites to evaluate it before going forward.
Newegg will have it within a week
I'm no pro... but I'm attemping to run these monitors at 120Hz in Eyefinity off of 2 MSI 7970 Lightning using displayport connection I don't know if it will work. I'll post here when I get them and let everyone know.
And Amazon is great btw. Been ordering from them for a while now.
there backup at amazon says 6 left ..I bought one last night said it will arrive by the 24th.
http://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-24-In...e=UTF8&qid=1358615033&sr=8-3&keywords=VG248QE
I pre ordered, why is amazon direct only offering free 3-5 biz day shipping? No Prime 2 day shipping option.
I was wondering that too. There was a expediated processing option when I checked out that I paid for. I can't wait to test these out.
BETA, how much did you have to pay for 1 day shipping if you don't mind sharing?I just checked back on my order and it looks like they have added other shipping options! I was able to upgrade to 1 day shipping!
BETA, how much did you have to pay for 1 day shipping if you don't mind sharing?
I have Amazon Prime, so 1-day shipping costs $3.99.
That's was up dude! I just like now remembered I have a $25 gift code that I got 2 days ago from Newegg. So after all this debating if I should get it from Amazon or not, I have decided to just wait for Newegg stock so I can use the $25 code for it. If it wasn't for the the code I would have bought it from Amazon, most likely tonight.I just did the 30 day Trial for Amazon Prime and 1 day shipping for 3 monitors is 11.97. Took me a few mins to figure it out though but now I'm super stoked.
That's was up dude! I just like now remembered I have a $25 gift code that I got 2 days ago from Newegg. So after all this debating if I should get it from Amazon or not, I have decided to just wait for Newegg stock so I can use the $25 code for it. If it wasn't for the the code I would have bought it from Amazon, most likely tonight.