Sludacris7
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Yes, p67 board is becoming buggy and I need pcie3.0. Hopefully I can overclock it past my sandy bridge.
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I don't think it is a good upgrade if you already own 3770k and 4770/4790k.
I will upgrade when 8 core CPU's becomes more affordable.
Yes, p67 board is becoming buggy and I need pcie3.0. Hopefully I can overclock it past my sandy bridge.
Is 1151 Skylake's heatspreader going to be attached with solder or paste?
2500k here on p67. I will almost certainly update to 6600k when it comes out.
I think Skylake is going to be a more appealing prospect for 2500/2600K users or even some people who are still running X58.
I don't know if the average user will see that or not. I think the clocks will ultimately end up being close but It is just too early to tell. Keep in mind that Skylake is now several generations newer than Sandy Bridge so your likely to see 30% or more of an IPC increase. So if your close are even within a 100MHz-200MHz of Sandy Bridge your getting a fairly significant upgrade. But more importantly the platform itself is vastly improved in some areas especially if your running an old P67 motherboard. Don't forget the potential power savings as well.
2600K user here. I'm very much considering it lately. I'm not slow by any means. But, I am several generations behind. Plus, I can justify it as my son needs an upgrade. So, I upgrade mine, he gets my parts and we're good. I know I'll see a performance increase. Just nothing like the "good ol' days" where you did an upgrade and it was night/day difference and you could bump up all your settings to Ultra. But, it'll still be noticeable.
The USD is really causing problems for me. I had strong plans to consider both a new desktop build (from a 2500k) and mobile buy based around Skylake. However due to raising USD and falling CAD these purchases would effectively cost over 30% more than Haswell based purchases a year ago which makes really any computer/electronics purchases much less appealing from an expense and value perspective.
Due to that I've basically decided against a Skylake desktop build (unless it greatly comes in overexpectations, or the 2500k really becomes not "good enough") and will wait longer for -
- DDR4 capacity/speed rise, price drops (16GB DIMMs)
- PCIe. 4.0 (tail end of PCie 3.0 now)
- AMD Zen (mainly due to likely more cores for the $)
- possibly HEDT (Skylake-E) or more cores to mainstream (wishful thinking maybe )
- larger IGP gains on desktop
Still considering a mobile purchase though out of necessity (no current device) if Surface Pro 4 goes Skylake-Y (core M type profile) or similiar device.
I know exactly what you mean as I'm in exactly the same boat. However, we can't expect the PetroLoonie to hold up to the surging USD when crude is at $47 so we have no choice but to suck it up and pay. As for the suggestion that you cross the border it makes no difference as you're still going to be converting CAD to USD so your savings will be close to nil.
Edited to give this example: 4790K at Newegg.ca is CAD419 and at Newegg.com is USD339. So it's actually cheaper in Canada in "real money."
cross the border and buy you MB+CPU bundle in the US. That's what i did for my z68+2500k.
Ive been living off of a 920 D0 for years and years now along with GPU upgrades. Its time for me to finally get current. A lack of sata 3, among various other mobo upgrades is a big factor as well. It will be nice to see the benefits of a cutting edge ssd.
I don't upgrade as often as I used to, but I think this will be worth it.
It is admittingly a large psychological issue as the market situation is unlikely to change much in the short or mid-term.
But Skylake wasn't really going to be hitting all the upgrade requirements which is the other compounding problem. So the both have swung me into a wait mode as really speaking a 2500k is still "serviceable" and will be for the time being.
What will especially be interesting is if Zen does reach Sandybridge single-thread performance levels but comes in wider (for the cost vs Intel). With Sandybridge I feel (at least for me) I'm at that "good enough" single-thread performance level and the gains going forward for my workloads will be with going wider.
There is also the rumblings that US tech firms are aware of the FOREX issues affecting global demand (and earnings) and could be addressing those as well with their product stacks.
Another thing to wait for would be seeing what the actual real world implications of DX12 are in regards to offloading compute workloads to the IGP (along with future trends in other software). This could affect a CPU design as well.
Ive been living off of a 920 D0 for years and years now along with GPU upgrades. Its time for me to finally get current. A lack of sata 3, among various other mobo upgrades is a big factor as well. It will be nice to see the benefits of a cutting edge ssd.
I don't upgrade as often as I used to, but I think this will be worth it.
Same boat here X58, i7-920
The time to upgrade is here.
Only question in my mind is will skylake be fast enough and will Z170 boards have PCIe 3.0x4 M.2 slots, or will I go X99 and Haswell-E.
for single GPU system, what's the benefit for gaming?Motherboard wise, you'll be getting a substantial upgrade for sure.
Same boat here X58, i7-920
The time to upgrade is here.
Only question in my mind is will skylake be fast enough and will Z170 boards have PCIe 3.0x4 M.2 slots, or will I go X99 and Haswell-E.
"Leaked" benchmarks: http://diy.pconline.com.cn/675/6751941.html
If true, Skylake is a huge disappointment. And no I doubt this will overclock any good either.
Seriously thinking about 5820k on Aug 5 but might go for 6700. Wouldn't 5820k be better for DX12 due to it's cores?
Seriously thinking about 5820k on Aug 5 but might go for 6700. Wouldn't 5820k be better for DX12 due to it's cores?
I've been thinking the same thing and was going to jump on a 5820k. Here are my thoughts on why you should not go with haswell-e. If you look at the site linked, you'll see that the 6700k beats the 5820k in gaming benches. So it comes down to what you use it for really. Also, remember that a 5820k is haswell-e, not broadwell-e, which hasn't been released yet. So you will be 2 gens back.
Also, it will be awhile before we see anything developed from the ground up using dx12. And when we do, it will be just a handful of games. It will take a couple years before we see its implementation widespread.
for single GPU system, what's the benefit for gaming?
Many of you will I think be surprised by Skylake. We'll have to wait and see.
Unfortunately everything is under embargo. I can't get more specific than I already have. About the only thing I'm willing to say is that P67 users will definitely benefit from the upgrade. Z68 users will benefit less, but I think there is still some value in the upgrade. In part because of the CPU and in part due to the platform. Any X58 users who are still rocking 920 C0/D0 CPUs may want to consider Skylake as well.