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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-speaks-rdna2-rdna3-zen3-and-zen4-announces-new-roadmaps
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???.So, AMD, what will performance look like with your hardware raytracing solution?
"we support raytracing."
Up to 50% performance/watt gain but how much of that will translate to actual gaming gains? Doesn't seem like a 2080 Ti killer but maybe as fast or slightly faster at best. DXR performance is a big mystery. I don't think this will be competitive with Ampere at the top end and AMD will be forced to price a lot lower with low margins as usual.
Up to 50% performance/watt gain but how much of that will translate to actual gaming gains? Doesn't seem like a 2080 Ti killer but maybe as fast or slightly faster at best. DXR performance is a big mystery. I don't think this will be competitive with Ampere at the top end and AMD will be forced to price a lot lower with low margins as usual.
That performance/watt came from note RX-325:Kind of my take. They didn't actually talk about performance. Also, they indicated this is coming towards the end of the year. Meaning it's likely AMD could be releasing after ampere. Once again we have AMD trailing and Nvidia open to charge whatever they please.
Really does not tell us a whole lot yet. Should be a interesting year at least for video cards tho.
Yeah, no juicy nuggets, but it shows at least they are on track for what people are expecting.
50% boost perf/watt sounds pretty good though. I mean, could that be that RDNA2 is 50% faster than a 5700 XT? Cause that would be a pretty nice card and probably slightly better than a 2080 Ti.
Granted, Nvidia will have their next card out too, but AMD beating the 2080 Ti with a more reasonable price could be a good show (and at least keep them in the game). Then add in a competent ray-tracing solution and that could be a winner.
But we get hyped every time, and the past is not kind to AMD's success. But. You never know.
And then price. I don't know what they are targeting, but $1,200 or even $1,000 I think would be a miss. I would guess $799 for the top end, and then moving down from there. I hope they can pull it off.
A lot of speculation about if AMD can reach 2080ti territory when Big Navi finally comes out.
I feel the real question should be can AMD afford not to be in 2080ti territory by then?
This happened last time.
AMD should not be looking to compete with the 2080 Ti, it should be looking to compete with the 3080 Ti.
It seems AMD is trying to not hype themselves up like they did with bulldozer. Just realistic goals, and going out and doing them.That's highly unlikely to happen. That was my reasons for only mentioning the 2080Ti level. I'd be very happy though to eat my words and say I was wrong. But history says different.
at 899 it would have to be GDDR6.. HBM2e is expensive as fk and AMD likely learned from their mistake with vega/vega 7nm that HBM has no purpose for gaming. now that they've split their consumer card line up from their enterprise lineup the new instinct cards will probably have HBM2e and RDNA 2 cards will probably have 14gbps GDDR6 with hopefully a better memory controller to allow higher memory clock speeds.I would love to see a 72CU card with 12GB of HBM2e for US$899; oh, and make it a LC (Liquid Cooled) variant, thanks!
This happened last time.
AMD should not be looking to compete with the 2080 Ti, it should be looking to compete with the 3080 Ti.
I would love to see a 72CU card with 12GB of HBM2e for US$899; oh, and make it a LC (Liquid Cooled) variant, thanks!
at 899 it would have to be GDDR6.. HBM2e is expensive as fk and AMD likely learned from their mistake with vega/vega 7nm that HBM has no purpose for gaming. now that they've split their consumer card line up from their enterprise lineup the new instinct cards will probably have HBM2e and RDNA 2 cards will probably have 14gbps GDDR6 with hopefully a better memory controller to allow higher memory clock speeds.
Lots of speculations about pro gpu's from all over the place lately https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/n...192-cores-and-boost-speed-up-to-2200-mhz.htmlSome of us want more from our GPUs than just gaming; I run Cinema 4D, Substance, & Resolve; all can benefit from the added bandwidth HBM2e would provide...?
Lots of speculations about pro gpu's from all over the place lately https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/n...192-cores-and-boost-speed-up-to-2200-mhz.html
The AMD 50% perf/watt was based off a real game, Div 2 per note on slide. Since comparison was RNDA vs RNDA2 that would not be with ray tracing anyways.at 899 it would have to be GDDR6.. HBM2e is expensive as fk and AMD likely learned from their mistake with vega/vega 7nm that HBM has no purpose for gaming. now that they've split their consumer card line up from their enterprise lineup the new instinct cards will probably have HBM2e and RDNA 2 cards will probably have 14gbps GDDR6 with hopefully a better memory controller to allow higher memory clock speeds.
consider it more of a proof of concept.. if RDNA 2 actually works and is competitive then they know they're on the right track which makes it much easier to release RDNA 3. no point in swinging for the fences based on rumors with zero context to them.. they just keep throwing around the 50% figure but still have not said whether it's ray tracing or raster performance, for all we know the 3080ti is 50% faster at ray tracing but performs exactly the same as the 2080ti in games that don't support ray tracing.