Hi all,
I'm going to put together a new system this summer, and setup my current i7-2600K @4.7GHz as a system for the family/kids. I was awaiting Broadwell-E but I have to say that what I've read so far is somewhat underwhelming. Still, I'm going to move forward and get a X99 system. I never expected my current system to last this long when I built it and before building it I used to build new systems every 2-3 years (usually under 2.5 yrs). Since I don't see any major improvements coming, I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep my next system 5-6 years at minimum and so I decided to go X99 this time and try to take advantage of a few more cores and quad channel memory. While my system spends most of its time gaming, I use 1-2 VMs at generally light duty, and spend a few hours a weekend compressing 1080P videos, so I wanted a bit of a bump.
But even though I've read a 1/2 dozen reviews, I'm not sure what Broadwell-E really brings to the table over Haswell-E? This is what I have so far:
1. Slight clockspeed advantage for equivalent parts (100-200MHz), but then this is irrelevant by over clocking and it does seem Haswell-E overclocks better. Or maybe its my perception, but it seems that Broadwell-E overclocks I've seen on-line stop at about 4.2-4.3 GHz (I'm looking at 6 core) but the Haswell-E seem to be at 4.5 or better?
2. Slight IPC advantage of BD-E over HS-E, but again offset by the overclocking advantage of the latter.
3. DDR4-2400 native support vs 2133, but it doesn't seem that matters with good memory and using XMP settings.
4. AVX offsets for BD-E, though I'm not sure what benefit that gives me now?
5. Turbomax 3, but with overclocking I think that does not matter either.
6. Perhaps lower energy consumption of BD-E over HS-E at stock settings, but with overclocking energy consumption shoots up with both. I had thought BD-E with the smaller process might have more overclocking headroom, but that doesn't seem to be true.
So, obviously, anyone with a Haswell-E system doesn't even need to think about Broadwell-E, unless someone needs 10 cores. But for someone like me with Sandybridge (non-E) and looking to buy new, what am I missing if I buy Haswell-E and pair it with a new X99 refreshed motherboard, vs buying Broadwell-E?
Before someone says I shouldn't get a new system, I know I don't NEED a new system, but I WANT one. This has been a fun hobby for me for the last 22-23 years and I never expected this level of stagnation. I have an itch to build a new system and I want to scratch it. I figure I've saved up on not upgrading 2-3 years ago so spending some more on HEDT vs mainstream is ok with me now. Thanks for any pointers or advice!
Louie.
I'm going to put together a new system this summer, and setup my current i7-2600K @4.7GHz as a system for the family/kids. I was awaiting Broadwell-E but I have to say that what I've read so far is somewhat underwhelming. Still, I'm going to move forward and get a X99 system. I never expected my current system to last this long when I built it and before building it I used to build new systems every 2-3 years (usually under 2.5 yrs). Since I don't see any major improvements coming, I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep my next system 5-6 years at minimum and so I decided to go X99 this time and try to take advantage of a few more cores and quad channel memory. While my system spends most of its time gaming, I use 1-2 VMs at generally light duty, and spend a few hours a weekend compressing 1080P videos, so I wanted a bit of a bump.
But even though I've read a 1/2 dozen reviews, I'm not sure what Broadwell-E really brings to the table over Haswell-E? This is what I have so far:
1. Slight clockspeed advantage for equivalent parts (100-200MHz), but then this is irrelevant by over clocking and it does seem Haswell-E overclocks better. Or maybe its my perception, but it seems that Broadwell-E overclocks I've seen on-line stop at about 4.2-4.3 GHz (I'm looking at 6 core) but the Haswell-E seem to be at 4.5 or better?
2. Slight IPC advantage of BD-E over HS-E, but again offset by the overclocking advantage of the latter.
3. DDR4-2400 native support vs 2133, but it doesn't seem that matters with good memory and using XMP settings.
4. AVX offsets for BD-E, though I'm not sure what benefit that gives me now?
5. Turbomax 3, but with overclocking I think that does not matter either.
6. Perhaps lower energy consumption of BD-E over HS-E at stock settings, but with overclocking energy consumption shoots up with both. I had thought BD-E with the smaller process might have more overclocking headroom, but that doesn't seem to be true.
So, obviously, anyone with a Haswell-E system doesn't even need to think about Broadwell-E, unless someone needs 10 cores. But for someone like me with Sandybridge (non-E) and looking to buy new, what am I missing if I buy Haswell-E and pair it with a new X99 refreshed motherboard, vs buying Broadwell-E?
Before someone says I shouldn't get a new system, I know I don't NEED a new system, but I WANT one. This has been a fun hobby for me for the last 22-23 years and I never expected this level of stagnation. I have an itch to build a new system and I want to scratch it. I figure I've saved up on not upgrading 2-3 years ago so spending some more on HEDT vs mainstream is ok with me now. Thanks for any pointers or advice!
Louie.