SonDa5
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Also pretty sure the rumors that DC will only work on z97 are not rumors.
doing this will really piss off many of their customers and cause a loss of sales, all for the sake of helping the mobo manufacturers push Z97 boards that really don't offer much in the way of improvement over Z87.
^^ Do Intel actually get a cut of Z97 boards sold?
I wonder if anyone has compared the pin layout from the new Z97 boards vs Z87 yet, and if you can tell a difference that would actually confirm this (the pin change as seen in the pics of the lady holding the DC chip)?
Does Intel make money by selling their motherboard chipsets? Of course.
..but I haven't looked hard because I just assume I'm right. But I might be wrong. Usually when I say "I might be wrong" I'm not, though.
So the 4770 and 4770k both boost to 3.9ghz and the 4790 does 4.0 but the k will boost to 4.5ghz? Sounds weird. And unlikely.
Also pretty sure the rumors that DC will only work on z97 are not rumors.
I heard haswell refresh cpu's will in fact work with z87, after a bios flash. It's broadwell that will only work with z97, unless I'm mistaken.
The Z97 will be the only board, according to Intel, to support the upcoming faster Haswell versions Devils Canyon. Enthusiasts and users alike looking forward towards Devils Canyon will therefore have to choose the Z97
I have read on various forums that one of the reasons for the higher overclocks from older Haswell K chips is that with Z97, the voltage regulation has been moved back the the chip set from the processor (was moved from the chip set to the die on Haswell vs Ivy Bridge I believe). If Devils Canyon does not have the voltage regulation on die, that in and of itself may allow for much higher overclocks but would make it incompatible with Z87 since it does not handle voltage regulation.. Also Z97 may be disabling on die voltage regulation and is being handled by the chip set again allowing for much higher overclocks...
First that I have heard of this. If true then it will be easier to delid as well and it will probably run very cool delidded or not. Very interesting.
If Devils Canyon has better TIM and a soldered heat spreader ALA Sandy Bridge, then you won't need to delid.
If Devils Canyon has better TIM and a soldered heat spreader ALA Sandy Bridge, then you won't need to delid.
If Z97 chipset controls voltage in CPU perhaps it can bypass the integrated VRM on Haswel for higher clocks and lower temperature..... hhhhhmmmmm
This was what I was hoping for. I've ordered a z97 Hero to see if I can get more out of my chip or not in the new platform.
Just speculation. Don't set yourself up for disappointment. Bypassing the Has well integrated VRM should help but don't know the truth of the operation yet.
Just speculation. Don't set yourself up for disappointment.
Since some of the reviews for Z97 are already out, wouldn't we have heard more about this by now?
I was checking through some of the ASUS Z97 manuals, and there are still FIVR options, but no mention of disabling it entirely for on-board voltage regulation.
Why Delid? Because it will give you the edge in gaming, number crunching, over clocking, ect.
If you use computers to test your ability to push them to the limits then deliding will be your pass to more performance.
No bash.
really people have spent 2~years crying about TIM on the HS and people are going to make pouty face at the prospect of soldered HS...
sigh... I would more than welcome the return to soldered heatspreaders ..as I'd rather not have to void my warranty to get acceptable heat transfer from my cpu.
Too "extreme" for me. I nearly pooped my pants when I saw the picture of them taking a flame to it.
I see nothing about board requirements. Only Haswell and 1150 socket. So does this confirm it will work on 87 boards?
They're still not optimal believe it or not. I blowtorched my lapped Q6600 and took that SOB off and it dropped temps even further and allowed for slightly higher clocks with lower vcore and VTT.really people have spent 2~years crying about TIM on the HS and people are going to make pouty face at the prospect of soldered HS...
sigh... I would more than welcome the return to soldered heatspreaders ..as I'd rather not have to void my warranty to get acceptable heat transfer from my cpu.
The rumored Z97 requirement is only for the unlocked "K" versions that wont come out until June.