4080 or 4090 for 4K gaming?

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I recently finished putting together the following system (see signature, or specs below), and I need to know which nVIDIA graphics card would be suffice for 4K gaming (with all game's settings to Ultra).

CPU: Ryzen 7800X3D
MoBo: GIGABYTE B650 Aorus Elite AX
RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL36 |
HDD: Crucial T700 2TB Gen5 NVMe M.2 SSD
GPU: RTX 4060 Ti
SOUND: CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR Sound Card
PSU: SEASONIC 850W Prime Titanium PSU
DISPLAY: Sony BRAVIA 55" OLED Display (XR-55A80K) (4K @ 120Hz)
CASE: CORSAIR Crystal Series 570X RGB ATX Mid-Tower Case

Should I get an RTX 4080 or 4090?

Thanks for your insights and advice.
 
If you're going to go the 4090 route, do it quick, before the price goes up!
 
If you are serious about 4k and want the best experience the 4090 is the only card that is worth it.
 
///AMG said:
If you are serious about 4k and want the best experience the 4090 is the only card that is worth it.
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Great! I was about to do 4090 as well! My local store has a Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 for sale $1699 (it's $1799 on NewEgg LOL!)

Question:
I don't have (lost) my Seasonic PCI-E cables. Where can I order (provide a link kindly!). The 4090s come with the adapters inside the box, right?

Thanks!
 
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The 4080 is a 120-130fps 4k card
the 4090 is above that.
decide based on your needs
 
I've had a 4090, 4070 Ti, and now a 4080. Since you're maxed out at 120Hz like me due to you also using a TV as a monitor I would suggest the 4080.
 
4080 prices finally started dropping recently. Got my MSI 4080 Suprm X for $1000 about a month ago. As far as I know, the 4090 has held pretty steadily around the $1600 mark, though I've seen prices as high as $2400 for some of the water cooled versions. :eek:
 
$1200 for a 4080 is a bad deal when the 4090 is $1600.

I recently got the 4090 and don't regret it one bit.
 
Mad Maxx said:
4080 prices finally started dropping recently. Got my MSI 4080 Suprm X for $1000 about a month ago. As far as I know, the 4090 has held pretty steadily around the $1600 mark, though I've seen prices as high as $2400 for some of the water cooled versions. :eek:
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Yep, I got mine for around $1,000 as well. After having two different 4090's I would buy the 4080 again with no problem.
 
There is no video card any close to be powerful enough for being too much for 4k ultra setting gaming with the latest title, if this is the question.

Depend on what game you play, a 4090 will not be enough for a lot of them, "old" games, no RT on:

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But exist a world for which with vsync on with 144hz or less monitor a 4090 will not use that many watt because a 4080 would have been enough, depends on the games being played, while there is a world of game where a 4090 cannot even think to run them at ultra setting at 4k.
 
Keljian said:
Ok don’t really understand the last post, but for me 120 ish frames with gsync is enough for now
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It show a list of old game that do not reach 120fps with a 4090, there no such things as a 120fps 4k ultra setting GPU that one can buy right now.
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
Really?
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well yes every blue bar you see on that graph that do not reach the 120 FPS line, is a game that a 4090 fail to run at 120 fps and that with no raytracing, getting old by now title and that average not the worst moments.

If you look at the latest title, reaching an average of 60 fps is not certain with a 4090, without RT and with RT under 50 will not be uncommon.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lords-of-the-fallen-performance-benchmark/5.html

If I would be interested to play the latest and future game at 4k with the settings set at Ultra, I would not worry too much that a 4090 would be wasted with a 120hz monitor limit, if I play made to run multiplayer title maybe, but even for CoD MW2 you probably need the 4090 or AMD to be a bit above 120fps at 4k ultra.

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I would not be surprised if the 4090 struggle to reach 45 fps at 4k native when Alan Wake 2 launch.
 
Niner21 said:
Except when you can get a 4080 for around a $1,000. Again I've had a few 4090's and they are the extreme top of the video card world, but the 4080 does quite well (even the 4070 Ti for the most part) in 4k, so saving $500 to $700 or more isn't a bad option to consider. Not arguing, but just throwing in my .02.
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Yeah, I say whatever you can afford - so the 4090 if you have the dough.
 
Ok I picked up a Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC at a local store just now.

Should I cancel the 16pin to 3X 8pin cable? And get a 16pin to *4X 8pin* instead?

(The reason being is that this card has a Quite/OC switch, and I’m under the impression that if I select the OC mode, it would OC the card, hence my need for a 4X 8pin 16pin to 3X 8pin cable instead)

According to this:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzXdG4MX5Y
 
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Well, being they are ban to sale to China, the RTX 4090 should hold its value longer than it should just for AI work, get it while it can be affordable to you.
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
Great! I was about to do 4090 as well! My local store has a Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 for sale $1699 (it's $1799 on NewEgg LOL!)

Question:
I don't have (lost) my Seasonic PCI-E cables. Where can I order (provide a link kindly!). The 4090s come with the adapters inside the box, right?

Thanks!
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Since you have to buy new cables-----just get a cable which goes direct from multiple PCIe in your power supply, to the 12vhpwr connector. Rather than using the adapter.
 
LukeTbk said:
well yes every blue bar you see on that graph that do not reach the 120 FPS line, is a game that a 4090 fail to run at 120 fps and that with no raytracing, getting old by now title and that average not the worst moments.

If you look at the latest title, reaching an average of 60 fps is not certain with a 4090, without RT and with RT under 50 will not be uncommon.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lords-of-the-fallen-performance-benchmark/5.html

If I would be interested to play the latest and future game at 4k with the settings set at Ultra, I would not worry too much that a 4090 would be wasted with a 120hz monitor limit, if I play made to run multiplayer title maybe, but even for CoD MW2 you probably need the 4090 or AMD to be a bit above 120fps at 4k ultra.

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I would not be surprised if the 4090 struggle to reach 45 fps at 4k native when Alan Wake 2 launch.
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Are we putting stock in that graph?
Shows a 6900XT 10+% faster then a 6950XT
Shows a RTX3080 faster then a RTX3090
:rolleyes:
 
4080 would probably be fine in most cases for 4k (such as my 3090 Ti), but as stated, the 4090 is a better value in regards to performance per dollar. Really just depends. In most games, even recent ones, you'll exceed 60 FPS (particularly if DLSS is an option). You probably won't be locked 120+ FPS, but you'll be close to 80-100 FPS in most modern games at 4k and if you're not heartbroken about that, then the 4080's fine. But if you can afford the 4090, I'm sure you'd be happy with that in the long run.
 
Do the 3 prong adapter the 4 is pointless they have tested it. 3 provides more than enough power. I have the triple prong adapter one of my 4090s and it maxes it out full wattage. To be honest I am looking to upgrade it to a nice little ATX3.0 PCIE5 Gold rated power supply with the native plug sometime soon here because the prices have dropped almost to the 150 range for a nice gold one and i hate my old PS it's funky.
 
4080 is fine if the games you play have DLSS. But without it, you will need the extra horsepower from the 4090.
 
Do you guys think the 4080 Super will be priced higher than the 4080 (now) or the same price and then the 4080 16gb will drop in price? Probably the former, right?
 
pavel said:
Do you guys think the 4080 Super will be priced higher than the 4080 (now) or the same price and then the 4080 16gb will drop in price? Probably the former, right?
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I would agree with your assumption.
 
I play with my 4080 and get 120fps at 4k with all the games I frequent. Warzone, D4, bunch of others. I don't need the 4090. For my use case.
 
pavel said:
Do you guys think the 4080 Super will be priced higher than the 4080 (now) or the same price and then the 4080 16gb will drop in price? Probably the former, right?
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I think they will up the price of the supers. Let's see.
 
Niner21 said:
I disagree. The 4080 handles most if not all games just fine without DLSS at 4k.
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Handles will be quite subjective obviously but with the setting set to utlra like the op want, from Cyberpunk, jedi survivor, Starfield to Harry Potter can be rough.

But for some it is obviously not the case, like Lords of the Fallen, it averages 35fps at 4k without dlss
 
There is no graphics card out there that can handle all games on ultra at >120fps. Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, etc won't work.
DLSS gets you most of the way there.

The reality is there are VERY few games and circumstances where you need 120+ fps, especially with gsync.. so ..
 
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