shadow2761
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This or the Sammy KS9000 for better IQ in gaming?
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From the images he posted, it looks like his chroma test is scaled compared to rtings.com's pixel perfect image. Hard to imagine he could be that dense, but the evidence is pretty damning in my eyes. Posters later in the thread attacking rtings.com's integrity is pretty sad. I've had my eye on this tv for awhile now, hoping for a resolution to the chroma issue, this doesn't appear to be it.Someone on avsforum.com claimed they were able to properly display 4:4:4 but they have yet to go into any further detail about how they did it. For all we know it could be a picture of a different TV claiming it's the P75. If it's really the P75, they are literally the first person to get it working.
Official Vizio 2016 P Series Owners Thread (UHD/HDR/DV) No Price Talk Please - Page 679 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Several of us have already taken photos of the TV.. check the earlier pages4:2:2 confirmed, I'm doublechecking that he did it on HDMI 1-4 (the ports the tech specs claim support 4:4:4 at 4k)
I see no mention of that anywhere. From my own dealings with Vizio's engineers they have yet to confirm the issue let alone telling anyone it'll be fixed.Vizio told him they'd fix it with firmware
Called vizio and they said the screen tearing me should be fixed and that they are going to send someone out to replace the board. They also said I should be getting 4:4:4 and that this should fix that as well. We shall see.
I'm not sure why VIZIO gets such a bashing, but I have a 42" and a 70". When I do read complaints, one of the first things I notice is that the model has a 60 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. VERY slow. If were to make a recommendation, always get 240 Hz. You won't be disappointed. I've NEVER had any problems with mine like I've read anywhere else.The usual AV / home theatre discussion places have 100+ page posts about these as a TV, what I've read overall seems positive so far.
HF is one of the few places that has the rare double-combo of enough people that 1) care about PC input and 2) actually understand the shit that matters behind PC uses. The samsung threads are a good example of this.
There are a handful of smart users on AVS and other places but they get drowned out by the 5000 "this shows the red highlights in RandomBlurayMovie#6172 better than OtherBrand blah blah blah".
I'm not sure why VIZIO gets such a bashing, but I have a 42" and a 70". When I do read complaints, one of the first things I notice is that the model has a 60 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. VERY slow. If were to make a recommendation, always get 240 Hz. You won't be disappointed. I've NEVER had any problems with mine like I've read anywhere else.
Don't think so. E70-C3:The E series is 60hz. So you can toss that theory.
There's a new firmware update that a friend said resolves the 4:4:4 chroma issue
The only negative from this forum is due to the 4:4:4 bug. Otherwise, this display is superior to all the mid-range displays from Sony and Samsung including last year's JS9000 edgelit. You literally have to trump the P series with much more expensive models like the KS9800 and the upcoming Sony Z9D.I have the 2016 65" P Series and I absolutely love it. There's a new firmware update that a friend said resolves the 4:4:4 chroma issue, but I haven't updated yet because I lost my thumb drive. I'll report back when I do.
In all honesty, for $2k, there's nothing that I could find, after doing a little research, that beats this Monitor. I'm shocked at the negative comments on this thread and some over at AVS. I'm usually picky as hell. I had a UN65F9000 before and after 3 exchanges I got one that seemed great. After a year, it had lines going on each side of the tv. More recently I had a JS8500 for my den and while it was nice, it had dead pixels (drove me nuts but Samsung wouldn't do squat about it) and a weird blue tint to the corners.
I guess what I'm saying is, the past 10 years, I haven't found the perfect TV. Every TV has minor annoyances, that's why I absolutely DREAD buying TV's. My wife forced me to get a new one after the F9000 lines started spreading and getting worse. It's funny because I was sitting in my office and she said "Let's get a new TV" and most men would be thrilled, not me, my stomach sank.
If this goes well with Vizio, I'll continue to buy their products. I'm not blowing $3-4k per TV any more on high end TV's only to find flaws you find on TV's half the price.
I know it seems like I'm defending Vizio, but I'm not. I could careless if the TV had the name Taco Bell on it, if it's half the price and has a lot of features, then I'll settle with flaws, because thats what I'm doing with High End TV's anyways.
The 4:4:4 issue is not just that it does not do it, but the set is advertised as doing it, and it doesn't do it. That's bad.
The 4:4:4 issue is not just that it does not do it, but the set is advertised as doing it, and it doesn't do it. That's bad.
I don't understand why no one has not tried it again and shown it's running at the 4K 60hz res.
If anyone wants me to perfrom some tests on myy P55 and 1070, I'd be happy to if someone could give me the images and direct me on how to use them to test it.I am glad that I went with the KS8000 then over the Vizio. It's a shame, on paper the Vizio looks like the superior TV (mainly for the FALD) but no real 4:4:4 is a dealbreaker for me as I use a PC at 4K@60HZ with 4:4:4 on my TV set for 4K gaming. All the AVS people keep discounting this but the fact is that no one has shown anything showing that it does it correctly. There was one post on the AVS forums but the guy was using it at 1080p and you can tell the image was scaled so that doesn't help. Anyone here have the P series hooked up to a PC to test the 4:4:4 running 4K@60hz? I don't understand why no one has not tried it again and shown it's running at the 4K 60hz res.
People demonstrated on the AVS forum thread that if you pass a signal from the Vizio P to a proper AVR, the AVR recognizes the signal as 4K@60Hz, with 4:4:4. However, the TV still displays what appears to be 4:2:2. So I actually think what the Vizio customer support is saying may be somewhat true.
EDIT: There was also a new firmware update released a few days ago that added HDR10 support. I don't have a PC hooked up to my TV, but there is a chance this issue was fixed.
If anyone wants me to perfrom some tests on myy P55 and 1070, I'd be happy to if someone could give me the images and direct me on how to use them to test it.
Near the top of this page (4) and earlier there are posts with the images you need and discussions on how to properly use them as well as links to the discussion at the AVS forum detailing why some posters there were incorrect about accurate chroma tests.
However it has already been verified that chroma does not function properly on this set at any resolution or refresh rate. But if you want to test again though knock yourself out, and show us your pics. I suppose the more evidence it doesn't work the better for someone at Vizio to do something about it? Who knows.