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OC3D :: News :: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti Specifications leak :: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti Specifications have leaked
GDDR5? Cut Titan XP?
Thoughts?
GDDR5? Cut Titan XP?
Thoughts?
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I'm just not impressed. One of these isn't going to be powerful enough to drive 4K at 60 FPS with everything maxed out but two is going to be overkill for accomplishing that task. So I'm not really sure what the market is for this.
Guess I'll wait for the next architecture which *should* be powerful enough to drive 4K/60 with a single card.
Introducing NVIDIA Quadro Graphics Powered by PascalWill we ever see a full GP102?
A single Pitan X can already get you there in a lot of games.I'm just not impressed. One of these isn't going to be powerful enough to drive 4K at 60 FPS with everything maxed out but two is going to be overkill for accomplishing that task. So I'm not really sure what the market is for this.
Guess I'll wait for the next architecture which *should* be powerful enough to drive 4K/60 with a single card.
The OC3D article is sourcing WCCFTech. Just FYI.
Anyone willing to spend $900-ish on a GPU will probably be willing to spend $1200 on the Titan XP. So who exactly is going to buy this card?
I'd bet Nvidia doesn't even release a 1080Ti...doesn't seem to be any "gaps" in their current line up that a 1080Ti could help fill. Unless AMD releases Vega early and it is competitive with a 1080.
The gap between a 1080 and Titan is 30-40% so right in the middle of that screams Ti. And if that leak serves right it is priced right too lol.
There's a price gap there, but I don't know if there's any customers in that gap. Again, anyone with $900 to blow on a GPU wants the BEST, and if the Titan XP is 10-15% faster, they'll be willing to blow the extra $300 to get the BEST. The 980Ti was damn near 95% of a Titan XM, and far lower in price.
How many 1080Ti's would they sell at that price? Enough to offset the cost of development and marketing?
There's a price gap there, but I don't know if there's any customers in that gap. Again, anyone with $900 to blow on a GPU wants the BEST, and if the Titan XP is 10-15% faster, they'll be willing to blow the extra $300 to get the BEST. The 980Ti was damn near 95% of a Titan XM, and far lower in price.
How many 1080Ti's would they sell at that price? Enough to offset the cost of development and marketing?
Anyone willing to spend $900-ish on a GPU will probably be willing to spend $1200 on the Titan XP. So who exactly is going to buy this card?
I'd bet Nvidia doesn't even release a 1080Ti...doesn't seem to be any "gaps" in their current line up that a 1080Ti could help fill. Unless AMD releases Vega early and it is competitive with a 1080.
I don't think it costs them much to release it. Nvidia are not working on slim margins lol, don't believe that its any hardship. This is strategic profiteering.
There isnt anything to develop. The cards are already there. They are just sold currently as Tesla, Quadro and Titan.
From everything I read, it's not the number of shaders/cu's hurting Pascal. It's the bandwidth that's holding it back. (Per Anandtech's memory & GPU GHz scaling vs performance articles)
The scenario you described is basically a win win for Nvidia. It will come close enough to the Titan that $800-900 looks like a deal, so holdouts on the Titan will buy it, especially with custom cooler options available. People that still want the best of the best will get Titan still.
It's not a question of their margins...They surely have enough cash on hand to put a card together and release it. But they would have to do the math and figure out if it's worth it. How much will it cost to market? Will it be Nvidia-only, or released to other OEMs to produce? How much will it eat into Titan XP sales? If the ROI isn't there, they won't release the card regardless of their margins.
They have to make and test a new PCB at minimum. Even if they don't make it themselves, they'll want to release a "reference" design which costs money to develop. Since they already have the 1080 and Titan XP to lean on, it certainly won't cost as much money, but there's still a cost. Plus marketing costs. The real question is are there enough potential sales out there to offset the cost? And how much would a 1080Ti cut into Titan XP sales?
It's not a question of their margins...They surely have enough cash on hand to put a card together and release it. But they would have to do the math and figure out if it's worth it. How much will it cost to market? Will it be Nvidia-only, or released to other OEMs to produce? How much will it eat into Titan XP sales? If the ROI isn't there, they won't release the card regardless of their margins.
They have to make and test a new PCB at minimum. Even if they don't make it themselves, they'll want to release a "reference" design which costs money to develop. Since they already have the 1080 and Titan XP to lean on, it certainly won't cost as much money, but there's still a cost. Plus marketing costs. The real question is are there enough potential sales out there to offset the cost? And how much would a 1080Ti cut into Titan XP sales?
same PCB
Meh, I'd be more interested in a new rumor about when it's coming out ("Do I buy a 1080 now or wait for the Ti?") than twiddling around the edges on specs. From past history we know that regardless of the precise details, the answer to that one is: "So close to the equivalent Titan that it makes anyone who bought on look like a chump."
They already have the chips, the pcbs, etc. It's like ppl are re-questioning the whole Ti line again. Haven't we been thru this with each succession of the Ti? Do yall need to wonder again if it's possible? Why do we need to become bean counters again and rewrite the book?
same PCB
Another thing to consider, what do you think the odds are that the 1080Ti chips are those that just couldn't quite make it for quality control purposes as a Titan P? The proposed specs show just a single quad unit of 256 shaders being disabled
So a 1080 has GDDR5X but the 1080ti will only have GDDR5?
Yep. At this point it's strategic profiteering, displacing those that didn't jump on Titan with their moneys for the Ti. Can't get the Turbo? Here's a Carrera 4 for you.
^^Truth, the 980ti had some competition. Today there is nothing on the horizon to drag this Ti's price down. And there won't be for a couple quarters, so I doubt there is a need for Nvidia to technically need one released.