chameleoneel
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I guess the only thing left to see is, what's the longevity on bearing noise.
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Noctua's Redux fans are older designs which are strictly worse. And they also usually limit their RPM. These Arctics are not strictly worse.If you don't want to pay full freight, Noctua's Redux line is still good. $15 for a NF-P12 redux-1300 PWM. And it's grey if the brown and tan of their normal fans turns you off.
so did i and now theyre on sale... first one was a dud though, one of the blades dragged on the frame. so i exchanged it and the new one is working good. it moves almost as much air and makes almost as much noise as the normal ones. but thats all ill say, unless you wanna make a thread for those.I just bought a slim 15mm 120 arctic fan
Nice, good news. If I like it a lot I may replace my rad fans with it. I'll start with the rear 120 push fan, I probably should have gotten the pull for it also in hindsight.so did i and now theyre on sale... first one was a dud though, one of the blades dragged on the frame. so i exchanged it and the new one is working good. it moves almost as much air and makes almost as much noise as the normal ones. but thats all ill say, unless you wanna make a thread for those.
I recently bought the updated version of Scythe's slim fan-----and it started have ticking and rubbing noises at idle speeds, after 2 days of use.I just bought a slim 15mm 120 arctic fan
(not the one in this thread)
This one ARCTIC P12 Slim PWM PST - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, quiet motor, Computer, extra slim, 300-2100 RPM - Black https://a.co/d/2YaoPnm
for one of my rads. Looking forward to using it for it's space saving slimmer profile. I'll report my findings here.
Doesn't show Prime/free shipping, yet.
Direct from Arctic - 4 of them were $48 total with shipping. Awesome value!Doesn't show Prime/free shipping, yet.
I don't use a lot of fans but over the past several years I've replaced most of my fans (previous fans were damn old and dying) and every 120mm and 140mm fan was replaced with an Arctic. When my son built a new system pretty much every fan in it was replaced with an Arctic as well. Neither of us has had a single problem with any of the fans and the performance is nothing to complain about. I always buy them in 5 packs and the price/performance is easily the best of anything out there.Arctic is my go-to fan vendor. I feel like Noctua are better, but not better for the money. Every time I go to buy fans, it seems like I can buy 5 packs of Arctic fans for what it seems to cost for a single Noctua of the same size.
RIPI don't use a lot of fans but over the past several years I've replaced most of my fans (previous fans were damn old and dying) and every 120mm and 140mm fan was replaced with an Arctic. When my son built a new system pretty much every fan in it was replaced with an Arctic as well. Neither of us has had a single problem with any of the fans and the performance is nothing to complain about. I always buy them in 5 packs and the price/performance is easily the best of anything out there.
I have no reason to go with any other fans (especially since I don't care about RBG.)
Dang, that's a bummer.For my gaming and htpcs, I've long replaced all of the Noctuas for Artics P12s. Basically the exact same performance for a whole lot cheaper. Easily able to afford 3x intakes and 1 exhaust. That being said, for my Noctua NH-D15, I have two Noctua A12x25s.
I saw a youtube review (may be the on in the OP or not), but it showed that this new fan has a signfincantly higher max RPM than the normal P12. This means more air, but it also means more noise. I want the opposite. The review showed that, that at say 35 dba (which is pretty silent), this new fan put out a hell of a lot more CFM. That's great! But going to Amazon I see alot of people complaining about coil whine and it being loud of low RPM.
Anyone here have direct experience with these fans yet? Would love to get an upgrade at case fans if possible.
Ordered three of these as I needed to replace three 120mm fans and add a fan in my Lian Lil lancool2. One fan was placed in the front bottom, one in the middle under the GPU and the one rear exhaust. I hear a low "raspy" noise at low rpms. I use Fan Control v149. If the fans were ever so slightly running they would make a "raspy noise" even at low volume. I try to keep my computer near silent when working from home. Manually controlling the fans and setting to 0 would eliminate this sound but the fans are turned off and not spinning.
I have four other Artic 140mm P14's and the 2 stock fans that came with the notcuta dh15 chromax. Neiher of these fans have this raspy noise. After testing out the these max fans I ordered the original Artic p12 "non-max" and confirm they don't have this "raspy noise" at low rpm's. The p12 max will blow a lot more air at 100% compared to the non max but rather have a much more quiet environment. Hope this review helps!
If you want things to be silent don't spend $10 on this, go buy an NF-A12x25 that doesn't hit 3300 RPM for $35. I went this route because I don't care about noise especially when gaming in a mITX build
These definitely move a lot of air, far more than the regular P12's, but are louder, and not just because of the higher RPM's. The other reviewers are right - they do make a distinct "raspy" or whirring noise, at all RPMS. This noise is more annoying to me than the old P12 hum. I actually still prefer the regular P12 PWM, especially since the hum they produce can be minimized or even eliminated at certain RPMS. Unsure if I will keep these.
If noise is not a concern for you or your case is not conducive to letting out fan noise (mine is, as it is a fractal north with the mesh side panel) these are still a good buy and actually cost me less than the P12 PWM did
So I installed one of these (slim edition 15mm) and while I appreciate the acoustic performance and the air flow is decent the radiator screws it came with do not thread into my Alphacool radiator and because they are slim fans they require a certain exact length of rad screw. I made it work with a couple of washers and basically jamming it in enough to hold it snug but the screws don't cleanly screw down.I just bought a slim 15mm 120 arctic fan
(not the one in this thread)
This one ARCTIC P12 Slim PWM PST - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, quiet motor, Computer, extra slim, 300-2100 RPM - Black https://a.co/d/2YaoPnm
for one of my rads. Looking forward to using it for it's space saving slimmer profile. I'll report my findings here.
i havent seen any confusion over the different versions.It just seems like there is a lot of confusion about the different versions of their "P12" fan.
This "Max" version seems to be a new version, with it's main feature being a lower RPM threshold. Nice feature if you need it, otherwise I'm not sure what it brings to the table beyond the "CO" version.
Did you watch any reviews? The "Max" version is a new design. Performs better. and has some updated features.It just seems like there is a lot of confusion about the different versions of their "P12" fan.
You have the regular P12, which is obviously the cheapest. These are basically sleeve-bearing fans (or "fluid-dynamic bearing" which is just a fancy name for a slightly more advanced type of sleeve-bearing) and are sold in both 4-pin PWM and 3-pin non-PWM versions. Often sold in 5-packs for an even better price. These work great at first but for 24/7 operation they won't last more than a few years before the bearing begins to fail.
Then you have the versions that are branded "CO" for "Continuous Operation". These are 4-pin PWM, use Ball Bearings, and are the ones to get. Maybe just very slightly louder but will basically last forever due to actually having real bearings.
This "Max" version seems to be a new version, with it's main feature being a lower RPM threshold. Nice feature if you need it, otherwise I'm not sure what it brings to the table beyond the "CO" version.
I just see a lot of people being lured into these fans by the low price and people having good experiences with the ball-bearing versions, and ending up with a cheap sleeve-bearing fan, thinking that the differences are minimal since they are all "Arctic P12 fans".
I had this issue with the F12's and F14's, but I have been running at least 50-60 P12's in my many rigs that run 24/7, and over the last 2-3 years AI have not had a single failureForget it. I won't buy any arctic fans again. All failed after a year. Scythe gentle typhoons or these lovely thermalright tl-b12s for life.
Oh wow interesting. I've never heard a negative long term review (one year isn't even that long). Thanks for sharing.Forget it. I won't buy any arctic fans again. All failed after a year. Scythe gentle typhoons or these lovely thermalright tl-b12s for life.
no sure, i would assume about the same as the fan blades arent different it just can spin faster.So compared to the normal P12s, at the same rpm range of 500-1000, these maxs would be pushing out more air while also being quieter? If it wasn't for the QA issues/whining noises of the p12 max, these would be an easy buy?
i dont read german or spanish and the english reviews seem fine to me, except one with no real explanation.Read the amazon reviews. Multiple people are complaining about the noise these new max p12 fans are making. They are saying they actually prefer the old ones.
Several reddit users are saying the same thing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/11g386p/hardware_canucks_your_favorite_fan_just_got_so/
so similar to the 900-1100rpm noise on the normal ones. i didnt see anyone mentioning those specific ranges, unless it was in ze german...It's not about more noise at max levels, its about raspy/whirly sounds at the 500-1500 rpm range, where most people are going to be use them. Would love if some [H] member would give them a shot