Can confirm.Blizzard fans should be thankful it's not Electronic Arts buying out Blizzard/Activision. Everything EA touches turns to dust or poop or poop dust.
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Can confirm.Blizzard fans should be thankful it's not Electronic Arts buying out Blizzard/Activision. Everything EA touches turns to dust or poop or poop dust.
Blizzard fans should be thankful it's not Electronic Arts buying out Blizzard/Activision. Everything EA touches turns to dust or poop or poop dust.
Why do people keeps saying EA? I'm picking on you, but it seems a lot of people in this thread have done it.Is isn't it sort of obvious. Microsoft is going to try and put the Playstation down.
I'm not saying they will... but they have a better chance of pulling that off today then they did yesterday.
Starfield exclusive, Elder Scrolls 6... almost for sure exclusive. Now add on the next Call of duty after the next one... a house cleaning at blizzards and a relaunch of Overwatch as Overwatch 2 (xbox exclusive) Diablo 4 is scheduled for 2023, expect them to drop the PS4. Tony Hawk... exclusives. Crash Bandicoot and Spyro exclusives (hey even consoles need some good kid stuff).
I also find it hard to understand 70 billion for EA... but for that price people thinking Microsoft is just planning to let EA function as they have been and produce all their content for Sony are dreaming. This isn't as much about Microsoft buying EA as how much content Sony just got locked out of in 2023 and beyond.
EA doesn't have the money to buyout a company like Activision. Not even close. They're not the monster they used to be.Blizzard fans should be thankful it's not Electronic Arts buying out Blizzard/Activision. Everything EA touches turns to dust or poop or poop dust.
EA isn't big enough for this one. I would be completely un-surprised if EA was in M$ cross hairs for the next big buy. EA has been slowly trying to right their ship very recently, but they aren't swimming in goodwill either. They also have some strife among their lazy, spoiled, disgusting employees that think 20 hours is "too long" for a work day.Blizzard fans should be thankful it's not Electronic Arts buying out Blizzard/Activision. Everything EA touches turns to dust or poop or poop dust.
Not liking it either. I freaking hate Amazon, but I always end up using it because of limited choices. I don't see this looking any different.I do not see anything good coming from this future gaming monopoly.
I do not see anything good coming from this future gaming monopoly.
Not liking it either. I freaking hate Amazon, but I always end up using it because of limited choices. I don't see this looking any different.
If Sony loses Playstation that's basically the end of Sony imo. IIRC it is their cash cow product.Sony interactive entertainment is only valued at 13 billion. MS could easily buy it is Sony was willing to sell it. If MS slapped down 100 billion on the table who know what Sony might do.
Huh? Where the hell you get that from???At this point Tencent and Sony are the only companies bigger than M$.
Their electronics segment is just as big as their gaming segment. A 25% loss in net revenue isn't going to break Sony Corp, in my opinion, but it will certainly change what they look like.If Sony loses Playstation that's basically the end of Sony imo. IIRC it is their cash cow product.
Sony had better step up and work on their in house studios and make some purchases themselves because now MS has ample studios to outpace them. Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, etc. can only get you so far when the game releases are 3 years apart. MS can release a AAA game every quarter at this point. If they want to and go full exclusive for everything then yeah Sony is in trouble. Especially nextgen, they have an install base this time around but that can shrink quickly.
Xbox is important, but never more important than Windows. MS goal is the metaverse and they will need PCs and Xbox talking to each other to achieve that. The Xbox gamepass gives users a reason to keep using Windows. I don't see myself using another operating system when I have an Xbox inside my PC.That depends on how you look at it. From the immediate perspective this would be a good thing since Activation Blizzard has more people that hate them than love them. Microsoft will absolutely fund the living shit out of their games, but this comes at a cost. The whole point is to get gamers onto the Xbox platform. That means for the near future that new Call of Duty games won't be on Playstation. At some point Mac OSX ports of World of Warcraft will end since it's also not Xbox. Future World of Warcraft ports will be made to work on gamepads, which you can take that what you will but again Xbox. Linux gaming will have an impossible time installing these games as at some point they'll be exclusive to the Xbox GamePass store. Or at least getting Linux gamers banned for finding creative ways to install games off GamePass.
To me it seems that Microsoft is pulling a Disney and just buying as much IP as they can to feed their Xbox platform. This won't always include PC as I believe the union of Windows PC and Xbox is temporary until Microsoft brings Xbox back to the forefront of gaming. Once that's achieved we'll be left behind... again.
Huh? Where the hell you get that from???
Microsoft Market Cap: 2.35 Trillion / $168 Billion in revenue
Tencent Market Cap: 559.36 Billion / $20 Billion in Revenue
Sony Group Market Cap: 156.64 Billion / $81 Billion in revenue
It is bound to go up in price. I see Game pass ultimate as a lost leader atm. They have to be losing money on it at $15 a month. That $15 a month gives you Xbox gold also. It cost money to run all the servers and bandwidth. Each subscription is potentially over 100 games in lost sales. Not to mention they must be fronting a lot of money to 3rd party devs to be on game pass.Xbox one always online and no resale 2.0. Get everyone hooked on a subscription service where you don’t own the games, all the revenue and no worries of losing $ from sales of used games. Good deal now but what about down the road when Game pass is $30 a month when they own a majority of the game publishers?
I would go on a rant about how market cap is driven by speculation, hype, and has almost no substance behind it these days.... I was referring to their gaming units though.Huh? Where the hell you get that from???
Microsoft Market Cap: 2.35 Trillion / $168 Billion in revenue
Tencent Market Cap: 559.36 Billion / $20 Billion in Revenue
Sony Group Market Cap: 156.64 Billion / $81 Billion in revenue
Oh at this rate they will all be known as Mega game corp in a few years. lol Ya no idea why I typed EA.Why do people keeps saying EA? I'm picking on you, but it seems a lot of people in this thread have done it.
EA doesn't have the money to buyout a company like Activision. Not even close. They're not the monster they used to be.
I think it could be exagerated a quick survey of our days to days consumptions and looking at the top stock by market cap and those at the bottom, would easily show an immense correlation between stock market and substance. (I am not sure how speculation could not be a giant part of the stock market and it obviously always been, has part of the game is about actualising in today dollar all the future profit of a company).I would go on a rant about how market cap is driven by speculation, hype, and has almost no substance behind it these days.... I was referring to their gaming units though.
Last report I saw said Microsoft only had $150B in liquid assets, with $43B of that being in cash.I would go on a rant about how market cap is driven by speculation, hype, and has almost no substance behind it these days.... I was referring to their gaming units though.
What really impresses me about MS though is that I was reading they actually have a trillion greenskins on hand to throw at acquisitions. That company... Damn...
That is a possibility, but I'm not sure how likely that scenario is in practice. Streaming music and video work because the very nature of the technology (play anywhere you have an internet connection) gives them an advantage; Game Pass does have streaming in its Ultimate tier, but it's currently more of a download service chained to Microsoft platforms. It'll make more sense if and when you can game almost anywhere with minimal lag.Xbox one always online and no resale 2.0. Get everyone hooked on a subscription service where you don’t own the games, all the revenue and no worries of losing $ from sales of used games. Good deal now but what about down the road when Game pass is $30 a month when they own a majority of the game publishers?
Seem to be talking about 2 different thing, you can be always online, no resale 2.0, monthly fee and have a local console (we already have this I think with Xbox gold pass or what not) and streaming witch is related but different.That is a possibility, but I'm not sure how likely that scenario is in practice. Streaming music and video work because the very nature of the technology (play anywhere you have an internet connection) gives them an advantage; Game Pass does have streaming in its Ultimate tier, but it's currently more of a download service chained to Microsoft platforms. It'll make more sense if and when you can game almost anywhere with minimal lag.
Not at all. COD is top in sales consistently yearly.the CoD franchise is struggling.
But active player count then drops like a rock, they aren't able to keep their engagement numbers where they want them, they blame cheaters and bots (which in this case I believe is actually accurate) for driving the bulk of the player base away. This is where I think Microsoft will have some good things, their resources for anti-cheat, and hacking detection, and blah blah blah are remarkably good. I am hoping that with their focus on gaming and such Microsoft will spend some time working on their VM sandbox infrastructure. In their server environments, Microsoft and Nvidia have gotten the vGPU performance damned near-native, 90+% in most cases, if they could refine that and get AMD onboard and get it into the 95+% range it would be more than viable to have their windows games running inside a sandboxed VM using their own virtualized driver environment independent of the actual OS running it. This would make cheating and developing cheats much much harder for online-based games, though at the cost of a slight increase in requirements.Not at all. COD is top in sales consistently yearly.
Xbox one always online and no resale 2.0. Get everyone hooked on a subscription service where you don’t own the games, all the revenue and no worries of losing $ from sales of used games. Good deal now but what about down the road when Game pass is $30 a month when they own a majority of the game publishers?
Yeah, lots of places list Game Pass as a ridiculous value overall. I'm keeping my eye on it.Well. You probably won’t agree with me. But with all this there is absolute value in game pass especially when you buy all your passes during holiday sale and stack up for 3 years. I literally paid less than half the retail cost for game pass ultimate codes and have 3 years. I think it was price of less than 4 games with discount. So the value is there if you get them on sale. I bought 6 six month passes for 180.
Disagree, its a combination of shitty patching policies that ultimately destory the 'fun' of a game due to lazy development and money, and the hyper focus on graphics draining resources from every other aspect.But active player count then drops like a rock, they aren't able to keep their engagement numbers where they want them, they blame cheaters and bots (which in this case I believe is actually accurate) for driving the bulk of the player base away. This is where I think Microsoft will have some good things, their resources for anti-cheat, and hacking detection, and blah blah blah are remarkably good. I am hoping that with their focus on gaming and such Microsoft will spend some time working on their VM sandbox infrastructure. In their server environments, Microsoft and Nvidia have gotten the vGPU performance damned near-native, 90+% in most cases, if they could refine that and get AMD onboard and get it into the 95+% range it would be more than viable to have their windows games running inside a sandboxed VM using their own virtualized driver environment independent of the actual OS running it. This would make cheating and developing cheats much much harder for online-based games, though at the cost of a slight increase in requirements.
Disagree, its a combination of shitty patching policies that ultimately destory the 'fun' of a game due to lazy development and money, and the hyper focus on graphics draining resources from every other aspect.
Just ran into this channel and he is a little memey for me but he lays it out fairly well, and covers things I've been saying for years.
Patches destroying everything
The Graphics problem
The point is they shift the meta in the laziest and most damaging way by just nerfing old metas. Frankly I find it stale, rather than find ways to adapt or develop an 'off' meta, its just 'old meta is dead, new meta is xyz' usually requiring some kind of purchase to take full advantage of the new meta. It is so boring I cant even muster the will to participate in those titles anymore.I sort of agree with him but still sort of don't he makes a lot of good points but I like a shifting meta in online games otherwise everybody just does the same thing all the time and it gets stale fast, but yeah.
Yeah, there is that too, it's a shitty tightrope. But I think my original point still stands CoD players drop off pretty quickly, regardless of the reasons why it's not a good sign. Initial sales are good but it's player engagement that brings in the money because an engaged player buys DLC and skins and blah blah blah, and while great sales will cover the development costs it doesn't bring in the kind of revenue that keeps shareholders happy. Microsoft is big enough that this gives them leeway, they are so disgustingly big that they can easily tie in other metrics and methods to show shareholders how the player base is providing them real income bonuses in other areas without relying on the traditional methods mentioned in those videos which are blatantly problematic. Doesn't mean they won't do skins and DLC and loot boxes and whatever new crap they do come up with it just means their jobs aren't dependent on them. And yes I very much agree that graphics hurt more games than they help.The point is they shift the meta in the laziest and most damaging way by just nerfing old metas. Frankly I find it stale, rather than find ways to adapt or develop an 'off' meta, its just 'old meta is dead, new meta is xyz' usually requiring some kind of purchase to take full advantage of the new meta. It is so boring I cant even muster the will to participate in those titles anymore.
It has dumbed down gamers to an insane degree as well, just a bunch of lemmings following the meta.
seems this is hitting sony hard, might not be worth that 68B now...I would have to imagine that Sony Interactive Entertainment is worth significantly more than $68.7 billion.
This was expected, Sony is a gaming juggernaut and Microsoft is tired of nipping at their heels for scraps.seems this is hitting sony hard, might not be worth that 68B now...
Microsoft Deal Wipes $20 Billion Off Sony's Market Value in a Day
https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/sony-drops-9-6-in-wake-of-microsoft-activision-deal
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Sony. The market has shifted away from a hardware IP centric model to a content delivery model. Sony is still stuck firmly in the hardware model.seems this is hitting sony hard, might not be worth that 68B now...
Microsoft Deal Wipes $20 Billion Off Sony's Market Value in a Day
https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/sony-drops-9-6-in-wake-of-microsoft-activision-deal
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seems this is hitting sony hard, might not be worth that 68B now...
Microsoft Deal Wipes $20 Billion Off Sony's Market Value in a Day
https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/sony-drops-9-6-in-wake-of-microsoft-activision-deal
View attachment 434113
This was expected, Sony is a gaming juggernaut and Microsoft is tired of nipping at their heels for scraps.
Sony only really has the console market, but Sony is not selling nearly as many consoles as they predicted mostly because they aren't getting the supply they initially contracted, in either event it's going to rebound it's more a correction than anything else and has as much to do with delays with a bunch of long-awaited PS5 games as it does the Microsoft news.