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Any summary for those of us who don't want to watch a half-hour video in order to absorb 90 seconds worth of content?
It's kinda weird to be talking about a brand new GPU that can get beaten senseless by a 7 year old 750ti.
Same issue with AMD. No one has released truly new budget cards in years. The only releases with new technology have been midrange cards or better and it doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon unfortunately for many of us.They have to start somewhere.
And if you aren't actually playing games, then game performance doesn't matter. You would just need something that supports a newer HDMI or Displayport standard, along with maybe hardware decoding of common new video codecs. The problem is that many of the budget cards from Nvidia are getting so old that in some cases they can't even do those two simple things.
Maybe now that we've actually seen one of these for real, sites will stop showing that ridiculous render from last year. You know, this one.
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So a slightly better igpu.
For those of you thinking this is going to be the line of cards* that solves the shortage of gpus and provides much needed competition to AMD and Nvidia - I don't recommend holding your breath.
*By line of cards i mean any discrete gpu intel releases in the next 10 years.
This is exactly what I'm hoping for.Ah. Well if it can decode x265 in hardware and supports the newest (or close to the newest) HDMI standard, it might make for a good HTPC card at least.
It's kinda weird to be talking about a brand new GPU that can get beaten senseless by a 7 year old 750ti.
Might be good for an AMD homeserver where you want to run blue iris for cameras. Of course, Intel would have to allow it first.I'd buy a cheap one just for quicksync and H264/265 duties. Could probably move my unraid server over to AMD finally.
tldw: its crap, barely better than integrated. fingers crossed for DG2...
With the current situation of graphics cards, it'd make sense to lock them to only work in their intended purpose, for OEMs only in OEM branded machines. It'd prevent, or at least deter the possibility of theft out of the factories, and slimy buyers doing backroom deals to get cards to scalp or sell on to miners.Wow that's so lame that they won't work on the majority of motherboards out there. I wonder what their reasoning for doing that was
It was basically explained a few post above....Wow that's so lame that they won't work on the majority of motherboards out there. I wonder what their reasoning for doing that was
It was basically explained a few post above....
Think I pretty much explained it.I was hoping for an advanced explanation.
Coffee Lake didn't have Xe, though, and that first-gen 10nm laptop CPU that was only used in one cheap China-only laptop didn't either, as far as I know, so this would have to be something else.I suspect these are actually coffee lake CPUs with only the iGPU working.
That is a good point.Coffee Lake didn't have Xe, though, and that first-gen 10nm laptop CPU that was only used in one cheap China-only laptop didn't either, as far as I know, so this would have to be something else.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's 10nm superfin, which is 10+ in their older nomenclature.That is a good point.
Ya it probably is custom silicon. Makes me wonder though what processes they used. Did they fab these at 10nm as well ? Or are they perhaps 14nm+^9 or something.
So they got to salvage parts... give their mostly brand new GPU team some experience with dgpu drivers firmware ect... and probably gave their fab folks an opportunity to try to get 10nm+ working on a part that they can run in small quantities and not bet the company on.I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's 10nm superfin, which is 10+ in their older nomenclature.
To be fair I don't think Steve GN really gets what that card is either. Or he is playing dumb cause hey its almost at 300k views.i think they get it after the third rant...
to be fair...To be fair I don't think Steve GN really gets what that card is either. Or he is playing dumb cause hey its almost at 300k views.
Really oh lol fair enough. I did watch it I must have tuned it out for the first few min.to be fair...
did you even watch the vid? he explains all that in the first segment.
If it´s that much better than a UHD 750, it´s probably a great card to use on a media server for transcoding duties, I hear QuickSync is really good.50-100% more performance over the 11th gen UHD 750 and 100-200% more performance over the UHD 630 isn't what I'd consider "barely better". Sure the 1% lows sucked, but that's pretty much the same for the former two IGPs in my experience.
Even being a hacked together solution for OEMs, it's good for what it is.