Those look really nice. How much did they set you back?
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i want to do something similar to this but to have the acrylic panel on stand offs so its not fully flush onto the case to let in air flow. any ideas to achieve this?
kinda what im going for. not flush but not gapped too much
With rounded corners and some light in the case I'm sure it'll look better.Not a fan of the look but very curious as to how well it works out for you. Good luck with it.
With rounded corners and some light in the case I'm sure it'll look better.
3. Im not sure about this, but having a lot of negative pressure may also solve the problem, using exhaust fans in the back and sides.
Yeah, I didn't even try it for the dust reason. And even if it wasn't for that, I think that's not a very elegant solution.You mentioned your own dusty enviroment, and I will add (not a correction!) that negative pressure is going to suck air in through every crack- the more negative the pressure, the more unfiltered air, the more potential dust, etc.
Having run 'positive flow' systems for the last six+ years, I can definitely say that I prefer it as components come out almost perfect!
So i did some testing and I would like to share. I'm sorry if it all well known by now, i didnt keep up with all the posts in this thread. It's about the use of air cooling on GPUs in this case.
My system uses a I5-4670 with a noctua cooler, SF-600 PSU and a EVGA 1070 SC GPU (overclocked but I've kept the 100% power limit). 90mm noctua fan as exhaust in the back. I have to filter every intake due to a very dusty ambient.
I started by ducting the GPU fans to the bottom of the case. This leads to ok temps of like 75 ºC at load at 35% fan speed. Which is fine, but i did not like the fact that the GPU fans turned on even on light gaming (I play a lot of HotS). This GPU makes a hiss noise that is perceptible even at low fan speeds.
So i removed the ducts an instaled 2 NF-P12 fans at the bottom. This decreased idle temps by around 10 ºC, which is expected since the GPU fans do not come on at idle, and it fulfilled my objective of not turning on the GPU fans on when light gaming. The downside? Load temperatures got a lot worst. Reaches 80 ºC and surpass 50% fan speeds, which makes it noiser and hotter than ducting.
Not satisfied, i tried removing the GPU shroud, hoping to expose more fins to the noctua fans. Turns out in this specific card not many fins were hidden bellow the shroud, but i tried it anyway. No noticiable improvement on iddle, but it got worst in both light gaming and full load. So, if you have this card, don't waste your time doing this. Removing the shroud just make things worse.
Resuming, if you are looking for lower GPU temperatures/noise as possible on load scenarios, ducting the GPU fans are by far the best solution. Removing the the GPU shroud is detrimental in the case of this specific GPU.
I could provide pictures, if it is of any interest.
EDIT: I removed my recommendations to another user for options to better cool an open air GPU, as I understand all of that is already known by the community
See signature, my build is there with the same heatsink and duct used to push all air outside the case.decided to go with the Noctua NH-U9S any one pics of their heatsink?
Unless you know how to manage the intake... you can have a master intake with an air filter to catch most of dust in a single location.You mentioned your own dusty enviroment, and I will add (not a correction!) that negative pressure is going to suck air in through every crack- the more negative the pressure, the more unfiltered air, the more potential dust, etc.
Harder to get a good air flow with positive though...Having run 'positive flow' systems for the last six+ years, I can definitely say that I prefer it as components come out almost perfect!
~196mm, answered in this thread.What is the max length for a mATX with a SFX PSU on the ATX bracket?
Thank you~196mm, answered in this thread.
Not a fan of the Corsair cables. Didn’t really have the patience to properly sort out the backwards sata connectors so I just hooked up my front two drives and removed my rarely used 3.5” on the floor.
Everything is running fine. Unlike the first time I tried the nf-a15, the temperatures look good. Fans are running at 390~rpm for the u9s and 450 for the nf-a15. I can still hear it running but it’s way better than the noise of my old v2 Silverstone ST45SF.
I have a problem with my NCASE M1 v4. I purchased this case second-hand, and it was in really nice condition except for one thing--one of the GPU mount holes (one of the two holes that the GPU bracket is attached with screws) was stripped--see the attached figure with the holes circled. This wasn't a huge deal since the other hole was OK, and I could secure the GPU with that one. Unfortunately, since I've replaced my GPU a couple of times, the other hole is now stripped, and my GPU is not very secure. I'll probably have to use something like a zip tie through one of the holes to secure the GPU.
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Has anyone else run into this problem? I've searched through this discussion thread and not seen anyone else mention this problem with the M1.
Today, I was perusing the discussion forums on the SFF Network. I decided to check out their main page and came across a "Meet the Creators" interview with Necere, and noted this quote from him...
"A new revision is certainly a possibility, though the only likely changes are minor fixes/improvements. Stuff like making a removable GPU retention tab, so if the threads get stripped out it’s much cheaper and simpler to send out a replacement."
I guess there's no way to fix a v4.
I have a problem with my NCASE M1 v4. I purchased this case second-hand, and it was in really nice condition except for one thing--one of the GPU mount holes (one of the two holes that the GPU bracket is attached with screws) was stripped--see the attached figure with the holes circled. This wasn't a huge deal since the other hole was OK, and I could secure the GPU with that one. Unfortunately, since I've replaced my GPU a couple of times, the other hole is now stripped, and my GPU is not very secure. I'll probably have to use something like a zip tie through one of the holes to secure the GPU.
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Has anyone else run into this problem? I've searched through this discussion thread and not seen anyone else mention this problem with the M1.
Today, I was perusing the discussion forums on the SFF Network. I decided to check out their main page and came across a "Meet the Creators" interview with Necere, and noted this quote from him...
"A new revision is certainly a possibility, though the only likely changes are minor fixes/improvements. Stuff like making a removable GPU retention tab, so if the threads get stripped out it’s much cheaper and simpler to send out a replacement."
I guess there's no way to fix a v4.
One of my side panel windows came in. Apparently Silver gets delivered before Black. Fits very nicely. The glass is thicker than I expected, and the tape job was obviously hand done, but overall I think it looks and feels great. There's some good heft to it.
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I just posted before you moments ago. If you notice on my V5 picture above, I also don't have screws attached holding in the GPU. Bracket is stripped to hell and screws do nothing at this point. I literally ordered a brand new case today because of this.
Can you try to tap a new thread? Or use a larger thread screw, like a thumbscrew, to get it in there. Be gentle of course. You could even cut a larger hole into your GPU bracket to get an even larger screw in. That's what I used to do on my first Lian Li cases back when I was a derp and stripped the screw holes by dismantling and cleaning way too much.
Can you try to tap a new thread? Or use a larger thread screw, like a thumbscrew, to get it in there. Be gentle of course. You could even cut a larger hole into your GPU bracket to get an even larger screw in. That's what I used to do on my first Lian Li cases back when I was a derp and stripped the screw holes by dismantling and cleaning way too much.
I have a problem with my NCASE M1 v4. I purchased this case second-hand, and it was in really nice condition except for one thing--one of the GPU mount holes (one of the two holes that the GPU bracket is attached with screws) was stripped--see the attached figure with the holes circled. This wasn't a huge deal since the other hole was OK, and I could secure the GPU with that one. Unfortunately, since I've replaced my GPU a couple of times, the other hole is now stripped, and my GPU is not very secure. I'll probably have to use something like a zip tie through one of the holes to secure the GPU.
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Has anyone else run into this problem? I've searched through this discussion thread and not seen anyone else mention this problem with the M1.
Today, I was perusing the discussion forums on the SFF Network. I decided to check out their main page and came across a "Meet the Creators" interview with Necere, and noted this quote from him...
"A new revision is certainly a possibility, though the only likely changes are minor fixes/improvements. Stuff like making a removable GPU retention tab, so if the threads get stripped out it’s much cheaper and simpler to send out a replacement."
I guess there's no way to fix a v4.
You could also try to use a slightly longer screw and use a nut.
Ouch! That's a $200+ solution. I absolutely love the case, but I can't really afford to get another one.
I have a problem with my NCASE M1 v4. I purchased this case second-hand, and it was in really nice condition except for one thing--one of the GPU mount holes (one of the two holes that the GPU bracket is attached with screws) was stripped--see the attached figure with the holes circled...
I guess there's no way to fix a v4.
Would something like this work?I ran into this problem on my V1 with one of the screws that hold the side bracket. (One of the ones on the back) I have been trying to figure out a good solution, unfortunately a bolt won’t work because the side bracket is in the way of where the wrench would go to hold the nut whiIe screwing in the bolt. I love this case, but sooner or later screws + aluminum = stripped threads. It’s just something you have to be extra careful about when you have an aluminum case. Even if you never cross thread the screws, the threads can eventually fail. (especially if you tighten the screws really tight)
Guys, the new Noctua NF-A12x25 fans would be good for exhaust? (Arctic Accelero Xtreme III / bottom)
wish the side panels designed like the dan a4...least there would be some air flow