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Do you think they will drop prices on Haswell when skylake come out? Is the 5820k still worth buying?
Not looking forward to dropping coin on 16GiB of DDR4 though. Really wanted to get 32GiB but i'm thinking i'll have to go 16 given the no-lube-reem-factor!
Reality: 10-15% increase on benchmarks comparing to 4790K which means 0-5% on real apps. But it overclocks well and has 30% increase in integrated graphics.
What's the improvement going to be over Haswell or Haswell-e. Is it even going to be noticeable?
Is 1151 Skylake's heatspreader going to be attached with solder or paste?
100% unknown, but rumor mills say likely paste.
I had absolutely committed to a 5775C totally silent build until Intel in it's infinite wisdom chose to have it be a vapor launch in North America.
100% unknown, but rumor mills say likely paste.
I agree with the sadface, but you can always delid/relid if the TIM material is limiting you.
I'm not one to risk fucking up a $350 processor. But that's me...
I'm currently running a 2500k in my gaming / high performance rig, and I will most certainly not be upgrading to a 6700k. The irony of the new generation is that the biggest gains are the built-in graphics capabilities. That's awesome at the budget end of the spectrum where a discreet video card is not used, but it doesn't do anything for the high end community.
If I want to upgrade over the next year or two, I'll be upgrading my video card. The bang for the buck just isn't there when I'd have to replace my mobo / CPU / ram combo for minimal performance gains.
Intel really doesn't give a crap about desktops anymore, especially since AMD is not a threat anymore, sad.
I remember when I upgraded every year or so and it was a huge improvement, been on a 2500K for 4 years because nothing really seems to be worth it for me.
I'm not one to risk fucking up a $350 processor. But that's me...
So you won't be overclocking it then?
i'll be upgrading. w10 upgrade is free for a year, but since it will be tied to your motherboard, I will make the jump from my 3820/x79/ddr3 to avoid the expense of having to acquire a new license. Also seems like a good time to make the switch from DDr3 to DDr4 with DDr3 resale prices still strong. I might have waited to cannonlake if not for the w10 license fiasco, but I think now is a great time.
So put me down for 6700k, 16gb ddr4, and z170.
Wait. Windows 10 license is tied to my motherboard? So if I upgrade my Windows 8.1 license to my shit Z77 mobo I have to repurchase it when I upgrade to Skylake? Why wouldn't MS just release my key?
YES. This is exactly what im seeing on the interwebs. My understanding is that only if you have a retail key will you be able to upgrade your motherboard without having to repurchase w10. OEM buyers are SoL. However, this could be all smoke as I have been able to switch the motherboards on past oem window installs.
But of course what is being said could be wrong (I hope so). Regardless, I wouldn't upgrade to w10 though on July 29th if you plan on buying skylake in august though.
YES. This is exactly what im seeing on the interwebs. My understanding is that only if you have a retail key will you be able to upgrade your motherboard without having to repurchase w10. OEM buyers are SoL. However, this could be all smoke as I have been able to switch the motherboards on past oem window installs.
But of course what is being said could be wrong (I hope so). Regardless, I wouldn't upgrade to w10 though on July 29th if you plan on buying skylake in august though.
Is this actually a thing?
If I'm sitting on activated Win8.1:
-Change motherboards now, keep same install, Windows 8.1 stays activated and upgrade to 10 works perfectly
-Upgrade to 10 on same motherboard, change motherboards, lose activation?
If something major happens to the device that requires something as monumental such as a motherboard change (basically turning it into a new computer), Windows 10 will require re-activation – which will require you to purchase a license. This is what Microsoft means when it says "life of the device." Additionally, you can't transfer a license to a new device. But, if something disastrous does happen, it's usually more cost-effective to just buy a replacement device anyway and that should come pre-loaded with Windows 10. However, if you happen to buy a new device with an older OS installed, you can get the free Windows 10 upgrade as long as it falls in the free upgrade offer period.
In order to register your install of Windows 10 an activation code will be created to uniquely identify your system. This is likely going to be some type of a hash code based on your unique system hardware configuration. It will probably use a combination of individual hardware ID’s for multiple items in your system like the hard drive, network card, video card. motherboard and possibly your Microsoft account to build this unique identifier.
linkWhen I upgrade a preinstalled (OEM) or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 license to Windows 10, does that license remain OEM or become a retail license?
If you upgrade from a OEM or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 to the free Windows 10 upgrade this summer, the license is consumed into it. Because the free upgrade is derived from the base qualifying license, Windows 10 will carry that licensing too.
If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail version.
If you upgrade from a OEM version, it carries the rights of a OEM version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version
OEM :
OEM versions of Windows are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:
- OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel
- OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on
- OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard
- OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system
What happens if I change my motherboard?
As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.
So I purchased a retail Win 8 Pro key back in 2012. I guess I'd have to do a fresh install of Win 8 Pro on my new build using my old key and then upgrade to Win 10 from there? Seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things.