Is a 780Ti overkill for 1080p gaming?

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murkris118

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Hi all,

I am currently running a GTX 680 on a 2500k platform and all the games run fine at pretty much ultra settings at around 45-60 fps. Now my question is whether if I go with the 780ti would it be too overkill for that resolution or would it suffer when games like The Division and Witcher 3 come out even in 1080p?. Do you think my 680 will be fine for those GPU heavy games when it eventually comes out. Now my budget is out of reach for a 1600p monitor because it is insanely expensive in the country I live so my only option to enhance my experience is to buy the latest graphics tech. I will be sticking with 1080p gaming for quite some time by the way till 2K monitors become cheap where I live. What are your suggestions guys...
 
No, just means it will remain useful for longer. For the time being it will just let you crank up everything to 11.
 
"Overkill" is a word people on budgets use to justify not being able to buy more expensive hardware.
It's a myth.
 
"Overkill" is a word people on budgets use to justify not being able to buy more expensive hardware.
It's a myth.
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Maybe... but overkill is a legitimate word to describe a situation in which too much is a waste beyond a point.. so I dont agree with u...
 
robble said:
And we found our first budget guy lol.
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It won't be be a waste forever.
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At which point I can get more or equal performance for less money.

Buy what you need for the next 2-3 years. Buying hardware to last you 6 years only leads to wasted money.
 
And we found our first budget guy lol.
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I presume you are Bill gates then.. Many people have budgets for their hardware purchases including ME so stop being a wuss. If you can help do that otherwise join the rich club...
 
For downsampling may be?
I am using 660 only but tring to downsampling but 660 just not enough to downsample BF4 (1440p > 1080, unstable fps). It really look better...
Anyone tried and compared it?

I wanted to upgrade my card to 770 but 8xx is coming soon and my 550W PSU just not enough for better card...
 
As far as benchmarks go cards like the GTX 780 TF from MSI or some other pre overclocked cards offer pretty much the same performance as a reference 780ti so I dont see the point of spending all that extra money on it for 2-3 fps increase...where i live the price difference between the two cards is huge...
 
I always find these types of questions too vague and generalized to answer since what performance people are looking for will vary greatly depending on what level of visual settings they want, fps they want, as well as games played.

Even terms like "maxed" are very vague since people often have a different definition of max in game settings, and this still doesn't cover the fps preference or even what games are being asked for. Also is "maxing" the in game settings really that important in actuality (more on this later)?

If you're asking whether or not your GTX 680 can handle future games then you should probably just wait until there is actually information for those games or even the games themselves to come out before upgrading. Right now the Division and Witcher 3 are unlikely to be released before the next set of videocards from both manufacturers are.

What would actually be interesting is if someone did a study, really a blind test, on what threshold is actually a noticeable difference in terms of video cards without a side by side comparison. How reliably can users discern the difference (and determine which experience is better) across a wide suite of games without actually looking at hard data (such as fps counters, in game settings, etc.)? Can the majority of people really tell the difference between a 780ti and 780? Can the majority of people even tell the difference between a 780ti and 760 or lower?
 
limitedaccess said:
Can the majority of people even tell the difference between a 780ti and 760 or lower?
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On this one I'd say yes depending upon game and resolution. I can see the difference between 40ish FPS and 50+ FPS. After 50, it's all pretty much the same to me.
 
BigJayDogg3 said:
On this one I'd say yes depending upon game and resolution. I can see the difference between 40ish FPS and 50+ FPS. After 50, it's all pretty much the same to me.
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But what if you dropped the in game settings so both ran closer in terms of fps? Could you also universally tell the difference in the drop in game settings during actual play? I don't mean side by side comparison or pixel hunting screen shots.

For example with Crysis 3 a lot of the Max vs. Max -1 settings, I have to admit I wouldn't say for sure I could reliably tell you which looked better if you had me just play with those settings toggled without telling me what was chosen.

There is even cases in certain games where higher settings aren't actually desirable despite being more demanding. I know I've turned down certain post processing settings, mostly related to blurring, due to preference.

Also there would be some game dependence as well. And also some people may be more sensitive (or due to preference) find certain differences more noticeable, so there would be variance among individuals as well.
 
"Overkill" is always relative to personal preference and situation. Buy the best you can afford and then enjoy it.
 
If you demand 1080p/60/vsync then it's a good choice since it'll allow you to crank the details up, too.
It might not be the greatest value in the world for your situation, but I certainly wouldn't call any single card (not counting those 2x cards in on PCB) overkill.
 
trungracingdev said:
What can a 780ti do that a 780 can't do on 1080p?
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Not that much to be honest, it looks like his situation is slightly unique though, as he's going to be sticking with 1080P for a while, so sticking with the TI, which may be several hundred more over a 780 in his country may be an OK "future proof" method. I'd personally save the few hundred, and OC a SuperClocked 780 and call it a day. Put the rest of the money saved in a "1440P/1600P monitor fund".
 
Why don't you OC your 2500k? It says in your sig that you're running it at stock. You would definitely see a framerate boost more so in certain games. You may not even need to upgrade your gpu at all.
 
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy the best of the best every generation unless you find a good deal because the high premiums aren't worth the extra 5% performance.

But what the hell this is [H] go for it!
 
Your 680 probably runs every 1080p game fine on very high/ultra. The next gen 870 wil probably beat the 780 at a lower pricepoint. So I would wait, because you can.
Also, depends on what you call overkill. Do you need to run every game on Ultra? Stepping it down 1 notch gives 99% of the eyecandy with significantly more fps.
 
Why don't you OC your 2500k? It says in your sig that you're running it at stock. You would definitely see a framerate boost more so in certain games. You may not even need to upgrade your gpu at all.
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That is exactly I needed to know.. Will it really give me more fps in certain games?.
 
Hell no it isn't. I always go overkill on my gpu, cause in a few years it will still be plugging along.
 
Overkill is therm often used by not enough experienced gamers, and even enthusiast, who never run higher levels of MSAA/SSAA or use down sampling

Zicro said:
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy the best of the best every generation unless you find a good deal because the high premiums aren't worth the extra 5% performance.
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Try ~15%
 
It actually isn't enough for some games...I dip below 60fps in games like crysis 3 and elder scrolls online all the time. Hell I even loaded up age of Conan (6 year old game) and dipped below 60 a few times.
 
RaZoRbLaDeD said:
It actually isn't enough for some games...I dip below 60fps in games like crysis 3 and elder scrolls online all the time. Hell I even loaded up age of Conan (6 year old game) and dipped below 60 a few times.
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And when you have a 144 Hz monitor, you can never have enough GPU. I would go tri-SLI at 1080p/144Hz if I had the money... so I'll have to go regular SLI instead :p.
 
RaZoRbLaDeD said:
It actually isn't enough for some games...I dip below 60fps in games like crysis 3 and elder scrolls online all the time. Hell I even loaded up age of Conan (6 year old game) and dipped below 60 a few times.
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ESO? AoC?
Time to overclock your CPU.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
ESO? AoC?
Time to overclock your CPU.
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Lol I knew mentioning the 2 MMOs probably weren't the best examples as someone would mention it being CPU related... I have one rig running 3960x and other running 3930k both at stock speeds... I just don't play enough MMOs to merit an OC but I wanted to OP to get the idea that many games are dipping...hmm erase aoc and replace it with Metro :)
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
"Overkill" is a word people on budgets use to justify not being able to buy more expensive hardware.
It's a myth.
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Amen to that. I find it amazing not only in how it relates to computers/technology but in day to day life how quickly the abilities of something that was previously considered overkill are used.

It's a better choice to spend a little extra at the outset and do things right than to cheap out and do things half-assed. It often costs more in the end to rectify a cheapout than the initial investment would have been...;)
 
not to mention that if you buy a fairly top of the line card now you will be able to sell it in a couple years for a pretty decent amount.
 
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