Windows 8.1 To Let You Shut Down Directly From Start Screen

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I am sure there are a lot of you out there that will be glad to hear this.

Windows 8.1 users will be able to trigger a shut down or reboot much more quickly than in Windows 8. On a PC, simply right-click on the new Start button to display the familiar popup menu. You'll now find a Shut down command at the bottom of the menu, which lets you shut down or restart your device.
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Making a HUGE deal out of a fucking shortcut that should have been there in the first place. Congrats Microsoft, I guess.
 
So, this means I still have to dick around with the abortion that is the Start screen?

PASS!
 
Chas said:
So, this means I still have to dick around with the abortion that is the Start screen?

PASS!
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My thoughts exactly.

If the "Start Button" takes you to the start screen, I'm gonna flip.
 
wow -- so we should feel grateful for getting a feature back that's been around for 20 years? this is some shit EA would pull.
 
I keep forgetting this is a "problem" as I've never used the software shortcut, at least not in the past 5-6 years anyways.
 
I've just been flipping the PSU switch. Isn't that how you're supposed to shut down Win8?
 
I simply use ctrl+alt+del and use the power button at the bottom right.
 
I gave up turning my PC off instead.
Just kidding, I still use Windows 7 :p
 
ah... I pine for the old days when I'd just press the power button on my computer and the whole computer turned off, I didn't get an ugly warning the next time I booted that said it was shut down improperly or any of that garbage...

oh wait, if I press the power button now my computer shuts down.
 
Wait, since when was this an issue? Desktop altf4 or physical button press to initiate shutdown for the win anyway. More fodder for silly trolls I guess....
 
Funny stuff.

Out of 5 people who we put in front of a Win8 machine ...

EVERY one of them ended up having to ask me how to reboot it.

That's 100%, but a small sample.

I had to do a web search to find out where system info was. Win8 Help does not know. See for yourself. It hasn't a clue.
 
PS - it's Win button Q scroll to right if the keyboard has a Win button.
 
I'm surprised by the responses here. It takes less than a second to shutdown your computer from windows 8. With a mouse even, swipe down the right, settings power off.

This is a tech forum right?
 
No shit? Whew. Wait, they show you that during install. So if you didn't install ...

Seriously, when you put a kiddie AOL-clone interface on an OS, you're expecting the User to look under Settings for Reboot?

Reboot hasn't been a Setting since the early versions of Winblows that rebooted at random. The Random Reboot Setting was the default, but their wasn't a second menu choice.
 
Win8 is "usable". But I'm still at a complete loss as to what advantage it has over Win7 or XP.
 
MaddBomber83 said:
I'm surprised by the responses here. It takes less than a second to shutdown your computer from windows 8. With a mouse even, swipe down the right, settings power off.

This is a tech forum right?
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Why are you assuming that everyone would automatically know this?
I have end users to support that have a hard time finding the power button, yet they are suppose to understand/remember how to swip the right side of the screen to turn off thier system?

I also assume you haven't tried to do this swipe remotely, especially when you're 2 levels deep into remote desktop.
 
Qinsp said:
Win8 is "usable". But I'm still at a complete loss as to what advantage it has over Win7 or XP.
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Zip over Windows 7. Its change for the sake of trying to make their Phone/Tablet OS more familiar in hopes of selling more.

the reality is that they've deprived Windows 7 of at least one if not two service packs. Which would have shrunk any 'under the hood' performance gap. Inconvenieced the hell out of users. And then charged them for it.
 
Try the power button like normal people with a brain? Win8 is fine... but there sure is something wrong with a lot of people.... (win7 is great too btw)
 
Lmao, it never fails. RAGE ON ragers!

Next article: Bill Gates has a cup of coffee.
Comments: I HATE WINDOWS 8, ARRRGGG!
 
Not all computers are mounted where the power button is easily accessible. Most our work machines are back where the controllers are. Desktop real estate is critical for some workstations (all?) so putting the box on area that could be used for work increases the sqft per workstation required, and y'all know you pay for every sq ft.

It's not power off that is the issue. We don't turn machines off. It's the reboot that is still necessary when a Win app is poorly behaved or has a memory leak.
 
XamediX said:
Lmao, it never fails. RAGE ON ragers!

Next article: Bill Gates has a cup of coffee.
Comments: I HATE WINDOWS 8, ARRRGGG!
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Except I bought my last copy of Windows for my home for a very long time. And if after that time I'm forced to upgrade because Linux is still behind in gaming, I might be one copy and hold on to it for another very long time.

My purchase rate for Windows will be about 1/3 or less of what it would have been over the same time period.

Bill might care about that.
 
MaddBomber83 said:
I'm surprised by the responses here. It takes less than a second to shutdown your computer from windows 8. With a mouse even, swipe down the right, settings power off.

This is a tech forum right?
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Yes, and we hate poor design. The start screen takes up the whole damn screen and yet is less functional than the old start menu. Users shouldn't have to hunt around for basic commands strewn across two different interfaces (charms and start screen). Desktop users should have to dick around with 'swipe' interfaces at all. There's no reason they couldn't have made 8 work great on both tablets and traditional PCs, they just didn't bother to put the necessary time and talent into it. I'm not sure why they rushed, my best guess is that they were hoping to populate their app store... that worked out real well. I would also argue that while 'flat' UI's may be the fad right now aero glass was a much nicer looking UI than the ugly flat box interface they've got going on now.

The bad UI just exacerbates the fact that Windows 8 doesn't really provide anything new or compelling to encourage people to upgrade from 7. There's nothing 'fine tuned' about it, the performance differences are negligible. Metro apps are worthless. They're forcing you to buy 8 Pro + pay an additional $10 to use Windows Media Center, despite the fact that it is unchanged from Vista or 7 and was a standard Vista/7 Home Premium feature... Why upgrade? Integrated Hyper-V? You can say that their target is new tablet devices, but nobody seems to want $500+ Windows tablets and so far they haven't been competitive at the low end.

Between Windows 8 disaster and the Xbox One fiasco you get the sense that Microsoft is in trouble. The company needs better leadership and direction at the top.
 
the hilarious thing to me is that before windows 8, you moved your mouse to the bottom left corner, clicked a button, and then selected your shutdown/reboot/sleep option.

In windows 8, you move to the top right, which is apparently so blasphemous, that people can't be bothered to even look at it.
 
I'm just so overwhelmed by these massive improvements.
 
They've obviously hired some ex Apple employees because this is the same crap they pull with their die-hards and get cheers all-round. YESSS!!! another "feature" that was considered standard on PC's since Win2k!

Three Cheers for the Operating System's entrance into mainstream. Where professional advances and fine tuning go out in preparation for basic crap that A)Should have been their from the get-go as any user would find out within hours of actual use, B)Were actually there in version prior but some how vanished and are here in a... tadaaaa NEW VERSION that only gives you SFA but the PR guys go orgasmic over! (see Fish in Call of Duty GHOSTS as another example).

I liked it when Computers weren't cool. At least developers made *actual* enhancements to software and not changes pretending to be enhancements.

I bet 8.1 won't actually change any underlying everyday issues that users may run into. Sometimes its the little things in quantity that really help a user.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
Yes, and we hate poor design. The start screen takes up the whole damn screen and yet is less functional than the old start menu. Users shouldn't have to hunt around for basic commands strewn across two different interfaces (charms and start screen). Desktop users should have to dick around with 'swipe' interfaces at all. There's no reason they couldn't have made 8 work great on both tablets and traditional PCs, they just didn't bother to put the necessary time and talent into it. I'm not sure why they rushed, my best guess is that they were hoping to populate their app store... that worked out real well. I would also argue that while 'flat' UI's may be the fad right now aero glass was a much nicer looking UI than the ugly flat box interface they've got going on now.

The bad UI just exacerbates the fact that Windows 8 doesn't really provide anything new or compelling to encourage people to upgrade from 7. There's nothing 'fine tuned' about it, the performance differences are negligible. Metro apps are worthless. They're forcing you to buy 8 Pro + pay an additional $10 to use Windows Media Center, despite the fact that it is unchanged from Vista or 7 and was a standard Vista/7 Home Premium feature... Why upgrade? Integrated Hyper-V? You can say that their target is new tablet devices, but nobody seems to want $500+ Windows tablets and so far they haven't been competitive at the low end.

Between Windows 8 disaster and the Xbox One fiasco you get the sense that Microsoft is in trouble. The company needs better leadership and direction at the top.
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Aside from being first with touch on the desktop, the whole hidden point of W8 is that MS wants to make money off you on the cloud.

It's the same with Xbone. If they can spend a billion dollars on cloud servers that are advertised as being able to augment processing for game engines, why not just put better hardware in the Xbone to begin with? Because they want you to buy into the cloud.
 
MaddBomber83 said:
This is a tech forum right?
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Yup. Meaning many of us are the ones who actually have to deal with the confused Windows 8 users on a daily basis and are thus intimately familiar with it's shortcomings. We don't live in a bubble where we arrogantly assume that if we can figure something out, it must be okay for everyone.
 
Windows 8 made me love my memorization of all the shortcut keys. When I first installed it and couldn't locate a quick method to shut it down, good ol' ALT-F4 was to my rescue.
 
nutzo said:
Why are you assuming that everyone would automatically know this?
I have end users to support that have a hard time finding the power button, yet they are suppose to understand/remember how to swip the right side of the screen to turn off thier system?

I also assume you haven't tried to do this swipe remotely, especially when you're 2 levels deep into remote desktop.
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I was actually just wondering this last night.

Does rdp detect the swipe motions and bring up the correct menus in Win8 when remoted in?
 
chameleoneel said:
the hilarious thing to me is that before windows 8, you moved your mouse to the bottom left corner, clicked a button, and then selected your shutdown/reboot/sleep option.

In windows 8, you move to the top right, which is apparently so blasphemous, that people can't be bothered to even look at it.
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I actually think they took a backwards step with win7 in this regard too.

In winXP, it was as easy as StartButton > U > U or R for your shutdown or restart.

It's still quick in 7, but i have to use the mouse too... StartButton > Click
 
chockomonkey said:
I was actually just wondering this last night.

Does rdp detect the swipe motions and bring up the correct menus in Win8 when remoted in?
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If you use the desktop RDP client and run it full screen, the swipes are local to the remote machine. The Metro RDP client present remote commands for Start, app switching and the Charms in the App Bar.
 
stashtv said:
Windows 8 made me love my memorization of all the shortcut keys. When I first installed it and couldn't locate a quick method to shut it down, good ol' ALT-F4 was to my rescue.
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lol btw. I've known this would work but haven't ever used it to shut down.

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