New Lian Li PC-V354 m.atx case : Specification & Feature

cmadki4 said:
I've come down with a mild case of thread necro: but I have to ask. Has anyone successfully fit a 360 rad into one of these? I realize it can't be done without extensive modding. But, hey. I am a modder, so making metal shavings is my thing ;)I want to squeeze my existing rig, which is in an already pretty small custom case, into this thing.
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So, after thorough review of this thread and others, it would seem that reasonably fitting a complete WC loop in this case is a ridiculous fantasy. No room for a good rads, no room for a full gpu block between the PSU and GPU (no room for fittings), no room for pump/res. And the cable management in this thing is awful. It would be great for air cooled setup, but I'm having a hard time letting go of water cooling ;) Also, it's hard to argue with the fact that I have a complete wc loop w/ a 360 rad crammed cleanly into a equally size, if not smaller case. :D I guess this case will sit on the shelf until I decide what to do with it.
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@ cmadki4- Have you seen this guy's build? Phobya 200mm rad in the front and 120 rad in the back. Should be able to cool the components adequately. Only thing is no room for drives.

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catcherintherye said:
@ cmadki4- Have you seen this guy's build? Phobya 200mm rad in the front and 120 rad in the back. Should be able to cool the components adequately. Only thing is no room for drives.

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Another thing is that all of the front ports have gone the way of the dodo bird ... must be some narrow purpose machine ;) ;)
 
@captain - I do believe I saw someone with a hyper 212 in there's, somewhere back in this thread.

@catcherintherye - yeah, i did see that. on some german website. that's pretty sweet. I'd like to use the rad that I have. HWLabs SR1 360. Do I get a prize if I find a way to cram that in there? :)

@cyberkost - no front port? booo. No optical is no issue at all. But no front ports is a problem.
 
Btw: by the numbers, a 360 rad should fit. But this obviously requires some modding. Here is what I figured up just to get an idea:
Side mounted radiator:
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Top mounted radiator:
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It would take a little adjusting and cutting, there would be no room for an optical drive, but it does appear to be doable. It may be possible, pending unknown interferences, to mount some shallow, like a fan controller in the 5.25" bay. I have a Kaze Master that would fit there nicely. Which would also likely need to be modified.

I still think the PSU would need to be shifted out away from the GPU to allow proper water block/fitting clearance. This would be simple. Just a matter of drilling new holes for the bottom support and rear mounting bracket. Any hacking done will be hidden by powder coating. ;)
 
Built on of these cases for a friend last week. Really like the case. I got the new one with the usb 3 header so no having to route them out the back of the case. I ended up putting the H60 rad in the top of the case. When I tried to get it to fit on the front fan felt like I was putting to much stress on the hose so I just mounted it up top. Did have to notch the fan just a touch as the ram clip was in the way. Did a modest OC of 4.4ghz on a 2500k. I can't wait to order one for my self. Going to try and put full water cooling loop in it. Hell I got 2x360mm rads in a Corsair 700d I think I can get at least 3 120mm in this :).
 
cmadki4 said:
@captain - I do believe I saw someone with a hyper 212 in there's, somewhere back in this thread.
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well if you did, you sure have a better memory than me. I must have spent a good few hours going through this entire thread looking for just such a photo.
 
just went through the thread again, and found mention of a hyper 212, but also said that he had to go with a shorter one.

I did ask a question a while back in this thread, and that was the measurement from CPU socket to edge of the PSU. no answer.
 
Wow, this thread has been dead for a while. Well, maybe this will pick up the conversation a little.

Today this case is going to be on the list of Shellshocker deals for $109.99! I bought this case when it was around $155 I believe, and even back then I was waiting around for it to come back in stock! So this might just be what some of you had been waiting for?

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Good day,

I would to buy a V354 + Antec H20 620 to replace my Mini P180+Scythe ninja 3 for my server. (7*3.5" 2To 5400rpm)
It seems that vibrations might be a real issue on this case. What do you think? Coming from Antec Mini P180, do you think it will be unbearable?
Thanks in advance for your help
 
What makes you think there will be vibration problems? First time I ever heard anyone mention that. Anyway, no. No vibration problems.

Also, the v354 will be on a Shell Shocker deal today at NE. Confirmed. :D
 
He does have room if he takes the fan off the larger radiator. Also, he does not need the second smaller rad. A 200mm rad has about 40,000m2 of surface area. While a 360 rad has about 43,000m2. Just have two 120's pulling as much air as possible without being too loud and make sure all the airflow go through the 200mm rad. It will be enough to cool it...


catcherintherye said:
@ cmadki4- Have you seen this guy's build? Phobya 200mm rad in the front and 120 rad in the back. Should be able to cool the components adequately. Only thing is no room for drives.

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Just FYI: for anyone crazy enough to try it, a 360 rad (and a very big on at that) will fit inside the V354. The PSU will have to be moved up, but with the rad in this location you get the best of all worlds: keep your optical, keep you front ports and card reader and a complete water cooling loop fit for some serious gaming/overclocking! But I personally have no interest in doing. My heavy modding and water cooling days are likely over (at least for a while).
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Hi,

I was reading on another post somewhere that there was a 92mm water cooling solution namely the Asetek 545LC

This is just theoretical, but would the following setup be fine?

Back exhaust 120mm --> 120mm to 92mm fan adpater --> 92mm fan --> Asetek 545LC --> 92mm fan

The depth of the this setup would roughly be 12cm, provided that the radiator depth is the same as a Corsair H70.

The reason for this is:
- want a CPU water cooling solution
- Don't want to use the front intake fans
- Don't want to mod any of the case

Any comments would be appreciated ;)
 
Atomnaya said:
Hi,

I was reading on another post somewhere that there was a 92mm water cooling solution namely the Asetek 545LC

This is just theoretical, but would the following setup be fine?

Back exhaust 120mm --> 120mm to 92mm fan adpater --> 92mm fan --> Asetek 545LC --> 92mm fan

The depth of the this setup would roughly be 12cm, provided that the radiator depth is the same as a Corsair H70.

The reason for this is:
- want a CPU water cooling solution
- Don't want to use the front intake fans
- Don't want to mod any of the case

Any comments would be appreciated ;)
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You could actually use a 120mm cooler (i.e. H60, H70, etc) on the rear of the case if you use either a 120 to 120 spacer or a gutted fan. All you need to be able to do is shift the radiator in away from hitting the side panel. Just mount the spacer/adapter to rear of the case. And the inside holes just need to be moved or slotted a few mm's. :)

But I'll be honest, the intake works really well with great temps without any modification. Except I could see where a thicker rad or push/pull fans might prohibit certain GPUs.
 
cmadki4 said:
You could actually use a 120mm cooler (i.e. H60, H70, etc) on the rear of the case if you use either a 120 to 120 spacer or a gutted fan. All you need to be able to do is shift the radiator in away from hitting the side panel. Just mount the spacer/adapter to rear of the case. And the inside holes just need to be moved or slotted a few mm's. :)

But I'll be honest, the intake works really well with great temps without any modification. Except I could see where a thicker rad or push/pull fans might prohibit certain GPUs.
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Thanks cmadki4 for the input. So if i were to install the radiator in the front intakes, would it be pushing the air into the case or pushing the air out? What is the 120 to 120 spacer? I have never heard of it. Sorry for the noobish questions.
 
Atomnaya said:
Thanks cmadki4 for the input. So if i were to install the radiator in the front intakes, would it be pushing the air into the case or pushing the air out? What is the 120 to 120 spacer? I have never heard of it. Sorry for the noobish questions.
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Personally, I have mine set as intake for better CPU cooling since it draws in the cooler air from outside the case. Setting it to exhaust out the front means you'll be drawing the warm air from inside the case. Still works, but maybe not as well as intake.

Not sure if such a 120-120 spacer exists, but maybe something like a rad box. Or just modify a fan. Then you can do a push/pull setup. You just need to offset the rad just enough to clear the side panel. Honestly, just spotting the rear fan holes or drilling 4 new ones is probably the simplest and more direct route. Someone in this thread did this successfully.
 
Has anyone here installed Scythe GT's in a push/pull configuration for either a corsair watercooler or antec Khuler 620 through the front intakes? I have the Khuler 620 and I'm have difficulty installing the 2 fans on the res.

If so how did you mount the screws? As the fans use the bolts which came with the case, they slide into the case rather than screw on. I will upload a pic if it later but untill then if someone could send some help my way...

Thanks folks.
 
Question to all V354 owners: No matter how I route the USB3.0 cable from the front of the case to the rear, it will not reach the I/O panel so I can actually use it for USB3.0. I had to use the little adapter to go to my USB2.0 header on the mobo. Any simple solution to this? :confused:
 
cmadki4 said:
Question to all V354 owners: No matter how I route the USB3.0 cable from the front of the case to the rear, it will not reach the I/O panel so I can actually use it for USB3.0. I had to use the little adapter to go to my USB2.0 header on the mobo. Any simple solution to this? :confused:
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Did you check to see if it was tied together or something? I have enough to run mine up the front of the case and along the top edge and out the back, totally hidden and about 4" of cable left out the back to plug into 3.0 ports.
 
N1GHTRA1N said:
Did you check to see if it was tied together or something? I have enough to run mine up the front of the case and along the top edge and out the back, totally hidden and about 4" of cable left out the back to plug into 3.0 ports.
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There was a zip tie on it right at the back of the front i/o panel, but even removing that didn't gain me anything. I might have to rent a USB cable stretcher ;)

Also, another question: I'm getting ready to powdercoat my case to textured black. The oven is set to 450*F. Is the Lian Li logo on the front plastic or aluminum? It sure looks and feels like aluminum. Plastic will melt in the powder oven. I've tried removing the emblem, but it's not coming nicely and I'm afraid I'll bend or break it.
 
cmadki4 said:
I've got push/pull on my H60, no problem.
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I meant a push/pull specifically with Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans :rolleyes:

As the outer casing of the fan doesnt allow for easy screw fitting. Thanks for the pics anyway
 
Fi3nD said:
I meant a push/pull specifically with Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans :rolleyes:

As the outer casing of the fan doesnt allow for easy screw fitting. Thanks for the pics anyway
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Sorry, didn't know the GTs didn't mount the same as other fans. Still not sure how they're different, but I'm sure there is some small mod that could be done to make it work.
 
Question for those of you guys running air cooling - either Noctua NH-U9B or Xigmatek Loki. Is there a specific reason why you guys have the HSF mounted horizontal - hot air traveling to the top (aside from the default reason - hot air rises, etc)? Especially with the PSU's fan running right on top of the HSF?

If you have a push-pull fans setup, wouldn't there be somewhat of lesser turbulence if you have the HSF pulling air front to back?

Just wondering you guys thoughts. I'm finally going to get off my lazy ass to build out the V354 that I picked up months ago.. Lol. Just picked up a Xig Loki with 2 Scythe Kama 92mm pwm fans.

Thanks in advance! :)
 
I used to have the HSF blowing up and out the top exhaust. The fans don't line up if you try to do it front to back. Actually, the top is now an *intake* and I reversed the HSF to blow down. Improved CPU temps by 8C. Rear fan exhausts CPU and north bridge heat pretty well.
 
djstarfox said:
I used to have the HSF blowing up and out the top exhaust. The fans don't line up if you try to do it front to back. Actually, the top is now an *intake* and I reversed the HSF to blow down. Improved CPU temps by 8C. Rear fan exhausts CPU and north bridge heat pretty well.
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Wow. 8C difference? That's pretty hefty difference. I'll try that config as well.
Thanks!
 
i bought the antec kulher h620 cooler, but find that it cannot go into the v354.
any one managed to install this cooler into the casing ?
 
I mounted one in a build for a client. I mounted it in the top. Ended up notching the fan a little to fit past the ram but it went. Suck the cool air from the top then push it out the back. Worked pretty well.
 
Just finished an Ivy Bridge build with this case. Video card is from a previous build, planning on swapping that out next month with a 680 or 7970.

Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
Antec Kuhler H2O 620
Asus Maximus V Gene
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB DDR3-1866
OCZ Agility 2 120GB
Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
Asus Radeon HD 6870
Corsair 750W

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TheMack said:
Just finished an Ivy Bridge build with this case. Video card is from a previous build, planning on swapping that out next month with a 680 or 7970.

Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
Antec Kuhler H2O 620
Asus Maximus V Gene
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB DDR3-1866
OCZ Agility 2 120GB
Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
Asus Radeon HD 6870
Corsair 750W


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how did you install 2 fans on the kuhler radiator ?
what screws did you used ?
 
If you look closely at the front fan (2nd pic), closest to the case, you can see that I used a dremel to remove the plastic so I could use the screws included.
 
Where did you get that 5.25" bay blank that matches the main fans grills so well?
 
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