Having trouble with Redhat 9

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Here are my specs

Dell Dimension 2400
512 MB DDR400 RAM
2.4 GHZ Celeron
Geforce FX 5200 Video Card
Western Digital 160 GB HDD

I installed Redhat 9 today, and after it installed It rebooted into some DOS like screen. Installed this because my friend recommended me getting linux and said redhat was the most popular version. How the hell do I get it to boot into some kind of GUI? I am not good at all with programming and commands. Please help me!
 
Can you manually start X with the "startx" command?

If this works, you probably forgot to tell it to do graphical logins; probably need to change the default runlevel in /etc/inittab.

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You might also want to try to install the nVidia drivers.

http://www.nvidia.com/linux

Read & follow the instructions. That'll get things working good for you.
 
Now how do I install drivers on redhat? I need someone to explain it to me like I know nothing because I am extremely new to linux
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
...now I have to find out how to install my wireless card.

hehe, good luck. what kind of wireless card is it? the cards that have the best support under linux are the orinoco lucent based wireless cards, intel finally released drivers for centrino. broadcom cards can be made to work with the ndis wrapper (use google to find it)
 
It is a Dlink DWL-520. I found drivers for them but they are nothing but text files with code in them. I am not a programmer at all, so I need extremely detailed instructions on how to install it. I am having a feeling that everything you do in this system is going to require me to add code. If that is the case, then this operating system sucks. Better than windows my ass, when your average user can't even get on the internet with it.
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
It is a Dlink DWL-520. I found drivers for them but they are nothing but text files with code in them. I am not a programmer at all, so I need extremely detailed instructions on how to install it. I am having a feeling that everything you do in this system is going to require me to add code. If that is the case, then this operating system sucks. Better than windows my ass, when your average user can't even get on the internet with it.

got a link?
 
this is source for the drivers, you must compile the drivers then install them. the README file has instructions on how to do this. just open the readme with any text editor under linux, or if your using windows use wordpad cause notepad doesnt recognize the carriage return correctly.
 
Dude I am not a programmer at all. I tried to open the readme and it told me absolutely nothing. I DO NOT know how to recompile code.
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
Dude I am not a programmer at all. I tried to open the readme and it told me absolutely nothing. I DO NOT know how to recompile code.

the instructions are very clear in the "Building linux-wlan-ng:" section. goto the source directory and type "make config" then follow the instructions. if that compiles ok, then you are in a position to actuall install the driver. i understand your not a programmer but your going to need to be willing to at least learn a little bit of basic compiling stuff in order to run alot of apps in linux. not everything is going to come precompiled or in an rpm package.
 
you are entitled to your opinion however this seems to be your first and only experience with linux. linux is not for everyone. you need to be willing (and also have the time) to learn a lot. there is quite a learning curve. there have been many threads discussing linux as a desktop system. i personally would not be willing to use linux as my everyday main system. i do love it for my webserver though. linux is very much a hands on os. not everything has a simple installer. don't bash something just because you can't easily/quickly figure it out
 
Can someone tell me why is it is so much better then XP? Other than they don't like microsoft's commercialism? What features does it have that is superior to XP? You can't play good games on linux. And everything you do requires you to input pages upon pages of code, which one small screwup (Such as forgetting to close your command tags) can send the OS into crash central. With XP you can just double click an icon and it will open.
 
For me the big points are...

  • Open Source - beyond the code, it's the mentality of the community
  • Unix-like - better environment for power users & programmers
  • Flexibility - far easier to change basic things (window managers, shells, etc)
  • Employability - Any monkey can run a windows machine; Knowing Linux is worth putting on your resume.


And as far as "everything you do requires you to input pages upon pages of code" - when was the last time you took a good look at the windows registry?
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
...You can't play good games on linux. And everything you do requires you to input pages upon pages of code, which one small screwup (Such as forgetting to close your command tags) can send the OS into crash central. With XP you can just double click an icon and it will open.

im speechless....i tried to help but if this is the way you look at it, then you shouldnt be using linux or any unix. go back to you windows world where all you need to do to run a program is double click.
 
One thing though. Why would someone WANT to write code just to install a driver, when all they to do is click a few boxes and they are done?
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
One thing though. Why would someone WANT to write code just to install a driver, when all they to do is click a few boxes and they are done?

because when you have the sourcecode for a driver you can compile the code to work on any platform. in linux the reason why most drivers are source based is because it has to properly compile to kernel, and all linux distributions dont use the same kernel.
 
installing source is easy most of the time. It only takes running a few commands-

from inside the directory where the source is:

./configure (optional)
./make (optional)
./make install

The README file will tell you which of these commands are required to install any particular package. There are several alternatives for installing drivers and software in Linux distributions. Some, like RPM's, can be double-clicked. While others you simply send a command to the OS to install a program, like say mozilla-

apt-get mozilla or emerge mozilla

and the OS will not only install and configure it for you, but it will also download the latest available version for you. Now if that isn't easy, I don't know what is.
 
Linux is for people who have way too much free time on there hands. There is no point in writing code just to get on the internet when XP does it automatically, unless you are doing something illegal.
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
One thing though. Why would someone WANT to write code just to install a driver, when all they to do is click a few boxes and they are done?

Because they want to interface with the computer in a way where they can be relatively sure about what's actually going on?


A small point - I guess if you're relatively computer illiterate, a config file is 'code' but those that have some clue about what they're doing tend to reserve the label of 'code' for things like programming languages and things that have logic to them rather than config files, which just sit there and relay information.


Off with ye to your little point & drool world.
 
acascianelli said:
because when you have the sourcecode for a driver you can compile the code to work on any platform. in linux the reason why most drivers are source based is because it has to properly compile to kernel, and all linux distributions dont use the same kernel.

WTF is a kernel? Is that corn of something? Great I have corn in my computer...
 
i must thank you, youve been keeping me and my fellow coworkers laughing all day with your stupid ass comments. when amoeba posted about you being computer illiterate i didnt agree and i thought he was flaming you. but now i see that he didnt do a good enough job calling you a dumbass. you go ahead and keep using windows, cause the linux/unix community doesnt need another choad like you.

somebody lock this thread before the flamming gets any worse.
 
Sorry but you were absolutely no help to me. " Go to the source directory and type make config" <--- What is this supposed to mean? Type it where? Address bar???? Also "Does X start with the startx command"? I have no clue what you are talking about. And frankly I can't believe someone would actually want to use a shoddy OS such as Linux. I don't see the benefits of actually hand typing the code for a driver as opposed to a few clicks and you are done. I am sure linux is good. I am sure it does have the best features, but can your average user work it? Also once you finally get on the net, do you have to continue to type code to get to different websites?
 
Imprimis_Obscurity said:
Sorry but you were absolutely no help to me. " Go to the source directory and type make config" <--- What is this supposed to mean? Type it where? Address bar???? Also "Does X start with the startx command"? I have no clue what you are talking about. And frankly I can't believe someone would actually want to use a shoddy OS such as Linux. I don't see the benefits of actually hand typing the code for a driver as opposed to a few clicks and you are done. I am sure linux is good. I am sure it does have the best features, but can your average user work it? Also once you finally get on the net, do you have to continue to type code to get to different websites?

100% dumbass

READ THE FUCKING README

if you had half a god damn brain you would see that you dont have to touch the source code, all you have to do is compile it. but ya know what, dont bother anyway because after you get it compiled your too ignorant to figure out how to install it. and dont think that anyone in here will help after you mouthing off about how much you think linux sucks.
 
I think someone needs to add some more chlorine to the gene pool, big time.

You don't have to write code to run Linux. In some cases, you don't even need to use a command prompt. However, I digress. You obviously don't want to learn, so therefore you shouldn't be using Linux. It is not going to hold your hand for you, and you apparently want it to do so.

I run Linux as my primary desktop, and it has been a learning process through and through. And I absolutely love it.

And for some reason, this image comes to mind:

trollsign.jpg
 
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