You should either mount the radiator on the top of the case, or flip the radiator around so the tubes are facing down. With the tubes facing up, it'll cause any air in the system to constantly be sucked into the pump and blown back out again, creating noise and potentially cavitation that will lower the life and efficiency of the AIO.
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12900k upgrade, some questions
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You should either mount the radiator on the top of the case, or flip the radiator around so the tubes are facing down. With the tubes facing up, it'll cause any air in the system to constantly be sucked into the pump and blown back out again, creating noise and potentially cavitation that will lower the life and efficiency of the AIO.
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Could you provide some source for this? I actually did try doing some research as to how to mount the radiator because I remembered some video mentioning it, but this is all I could find:
A few posts also said to put the radiator entrance above the pump... so that's what I did... to begin with I'm not sure if this 360mm could fit in the top slot (and I really don't want to put it there to begin with) and I'm not sure if the tubing would reach if the inlet was on the bottom so I'm not sure what to do.
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You are correct. Testing was done multiple times on multiple videos. Mount the tubes up top of it’s easier, it will not make a difference with current gen aio’s. I was going to point that out when I sat the post from someone else telling op to switch the rad tube orientation, but didn’t feel like arguing.
Place it how it fits best if your radiator is vertical.
Optimal radiator location is above the pump horizontally. Do that first if you can.
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@19:09 "it mostly just pump noise". i ran mine like that for years and it was quieter than my custom loop.
LGA1700 is newer tech/architecture and the 12700K is almost as fast as the 12900K but a bit less power and heat.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-12700k-alder-lake-12th-gen/
The savings from going 'down' to the 12700K allows you to put that towards the other parts in the build. Just a thought. I dunno if a 5950X system is a better scenario for you but that was my analysis for the Alder Lake system.
Either one requires a decent cooler. Ryzen might be more efficient overall, but the price/performance probably is a hair better with 12700K.Edit: Oh, I didn't read all the way through..... Oops...
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Well, I guess I have to partially lament my decisions today. Leave it to me to get blindsided by some garbage like this... (long rant post incoming)
So part of the reason I went with this motherboard (over the other ASUS TUF motherboard) was that it had an Intel wireless and wired card, and a newer one. "Intel has their stuff together in this area at least, right, and having Wifi 6 is nice, right?" I should have done my research before buying, I just honestly didn't expect a new (relatively speaking) generation ethernet adapter to have an issue this freaking stupid. And what annoys me more is that it never showed up until today, weeks after I bought it (despite me doing steam game streaming and whatnot every day), so I can't even get it exchanged at Microcenter anymore (well technically I could try, they've taken things in for exchange slightly out of date before for me before).
Yesterday, I tried starting a Minecraft server for some friends and then went to sleep. Today I woke up to a message from them saying the server only lasted for 3 hours before dying (was heavily modded, wouldn't surprise me). But no it was still up. What was down is the Intel I225-V ethernet adapter.
Turns out this I225-V is pretty much a piece of garbage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kppyoi/psa_asus_motherboards_with_intel_i225v_25gb_nic/
It's had issues since its inception. These issues were supposedly fixed in Revision 3 (which I have). Except they weren't.
This is just a warning event that another reddit thread noted. That's not actually what happens when this thing dies. Forget just disconnecting or restarting or something. Nope, this thing just outright DIES, until you fully restart the computer. I can't disable and enable it, I can't mess with its drivers, I literally can't do anything to it without a full reboot.
I can try rolling back to earlier drivers, except how? Intel only has the latest ones listed. I tried finding older driver (from last year or so) from ASUS, but that warning message still pops up after installing it.
So no idea where to go from here. At least I can fall back to wireless (which on wifi 6 should be just as fast as my wired) by connecting them both simultaneously, and hopefully it automatically switches over when it dies. My options are basically... 1 try to go take it back to Microcenter to get an exchange for a Realtek board... 2 RMA to ASUS (lol time to lose my PC for months for an ethernet card)... 3 buy another ethernet card (and waste a PCIE slot so I get worse cooling near the GPU, yay).
I'm just really pissed about this, sucks to have everything working and you're all happy and then some damn network card issue (that worse has been around for LITERAL YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T FIXED IT). This might be the last time I actually look for an intel connectivity device on any of my computers.
Well end rant, I wish I didn't type this fast lol.
So part of the reason I went with this motherboard (over the other ASUS TUF motherboard) was that it had an Intel wireless and wired card, and a newer one. "Intel has their stuff together in this area at least, right, and having Wifi 6 is nice, right?" I should have done my research before buying, I just honestly didn't expect a new (relatively speaking) generation ethernet adapter to have an issue this freaking stupid. And what annoys me more is that it never showed up until today, weeks after I bought it (despite me doing steam game streaming and whatnot every day), so I can't even get it exchanged at Microcenter anymore (well technically I could try, they've taken things in for exchange slightly out of date before for me before).
Yesterday, I tried starting a Minecraft server for some friends and then went to sleep. Today I woke up to a message from them saying the server only lasted for 3 hours before dying (was heavily modded, wouldn't surprise me). But no it was still up. What was down is the Intel I225-V ethernet adapter.
Turns out this I225-V is pretty much a piece of garbage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kppyoi/psa_asus_motherboards_with_intel_i225v_25gb_nic/
It's had issues since its inception. These issues were supposedly fixed in Revision 3 (which I have). Except they weren't.
This is just a warning event that another reddit thread noted. That's not actually what happens when this thing dies. Forget just disconnecting or restarting or something. Nope, this thing just outright DIES, until you fully restart the computer. I can't disable and enable it, I can't mess with its drivers, I literally can't do anything to it without a full reboot.
I can try rolling back to earlier drivers, except how? Intel only has the latest ones listed. I tried finding older driver (from last year or so) from ASUS, but that warning message still pops up after installing it.
So no idea where to go from here. At least I can fall back to wireless (which on wifi 6 should be just as fast as my wired) by connecting them both simultaneously, and hopefully it automatically switches over when it dies. My options are basically... 1 try to go take it back to Microcenter to get an exchange for a Realtek board... 2 RMA to ASUS (lol time to lose my PC for months for an ethernet card)... 3 buy another ethernet card (and waste a PCIE slot so I get worse cooling near the GPU, yay).
I'm just really pissed about this, sucks to have everything working and you're all happy and then some damn network card issue (that worse has been around for LITERAL YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T FIXED IT). This might be the last time I actually look for an intel connectivity device on any of my computers.
Well end rant, I wish I didn't type this fast lol.
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Nope, connecting wireless simultaneously doesn't help. Apparently when it goes down this piece of garbage literally kills all connectivity, regardless of adapter. Conclusion: Intel is garbage at wired chips.