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Just received mine, definitely has a fan. It's audible at idle with HDR off.

Can anyone please post their results of 92mm fan under motherboard in push/pull configuration? I would like to know how this affects CPU and GPU temps, thanks.

Good call for using a non-K CPU. Actually the performance gap between K and non-K was never huge even in previous generations. You can only expect to see ~2fps increase in games (perhaps a bit more on other tasks), but your system will be much louder, hotter and will require plenty of extra...

Waiting for Volta and 4K@144Hz monitors, 2018 is going to be epic... :)

Soo what was the justification for not using 4mm standoffs in the Dan design? :)

Ah yes. Only Silverstone then. I personally prefer AR05 for performance and looks as well, not a fan of brown fans, blue is sexier.

I suggest we all bombard Noctua and Silverstone for AM4 compatibility requests until they break! :D

Hold your hype, AMD may work some magic with Vega, like they just did with Ryzen. Rumors say that signature Vega will have 12 TFLOPS, which is more than Titan X. Le'ts just wait and see.

Well that one is 95W, might be a problem without a custom cooler, but good luck :)

AMD RYZEN RELEASE Hey guys, you might want to hold off from buying new Kaby Lake CPUs. Looks like Intel just got suckerpunched. Even the lowest on their release line, Ryzen 7 1700, is 46 % faster than i7 7700K at only 65 W for only $329. Just wow. I wasn't expecting that...

Surprisingly, SX500-LG is actually louder than SF450. 1) Inferior fan quality (even though it's bigger) 2) Most users experience a coil whine However, I bought SX500-LG before SF450 came out and I'm happy with it (GPU is a bit louder when gaming anyway). In addition, SX500-LG comes with...

This is genius. Pretty much any SFF build has a PCI-e extender these days, there is no reason not to use that area.

Also spec sheet for AR05, same thing. If you are lazy to tweak (like me), buy a 65W non-K and be happy forever :)

Some more info regarding K vs non-K with L9i / AR05. Here is a spec sheet from the Noctua site for L9i (should be similar for AR05). i7 K processors should be used with caution:

That's what I said, you can use it for gaming, but not for overclock. Regarding K vs non-K, there are some other games which are more CPU-intensive so you should be careful. Just look at the test by Meccabolix, you can reach 100 degrees with AR05 (should be similar for L9i). So be smart. If you...

Ok that's a good point for undervolt. But I assume that most users (like me) always run things out of the box. :) And yes, Kaby Lake temperature gap seems to be higher. Numbers don't lie.

Please don't mislead other people without checking the numbers. 1) K CPUs generate a lot of extra waste heat. For example, the difference between 7700K and 7700 playing the same video game can be 25 degrees. Thats is 30% more heat for ~3% more fps. Physics is quite simple, more Watts = more...

Also for people using AR05 / L9i I would recommend to go for a non-K i5 or i7 (i5-7600 for example). This is 65 W vs 91 W so you should have no problems whatsoever and run any game you want for the next 4 years with a decent GPU.

Exactly as I predicted. ;) AR05 / L9i is ONLY for silent casual gaming. Get C7 or something custom if you want to overclock.

Sorry, you're right, here is a picture where L9i heatpipes are visible: So I guess the advantage of AR05 is that it is touching more fins by entering from the outside? In addition, AR05 pipes have more direct contact with the CPU. Not an expert of heat transfer, but I will trust the reviews :)

Here is a photo comparison of AR05 and L9i: AR05: L9i: 1) How are these designs "almost the same"? 2) AR05 is 104mm x 92mm, L9i is 95mm x 95mm 3) Where do you see two heatpipes of L9i ? I think it is quite logical that AR05 performs better thanks to the heatpipes which transfer heat to...

For custom CPU cooler combinations (LP53, etc.): keep in mind that there needs to be some space between the fan and the side panel, otherwise you will get the same turbulence as with Cryorig C7. I would say that there should be at least ~1cm of free space, which is in the range of Silverstone...

More on CPU cooling in Dan A4-SFX Unfortunately Cryorig C7 was a bit over-hyped. Although it does cool well at full speed, it is a clear loser in terms of performance / noise + you get an annoying high-frequency turbulence due to the fan spinning close to the side panel. My recommendation for...

if you grind it down, it will have the same problem as C7 causing turbulence (see posts before). It's actually better to leave ~10mm of free space. Otherwise if you don't mind the turbulence just use C7.

Now I know what do they mean by hardforum, this is better than porn.

1 day delivery from Overclockers, but still no email for my Kickstarter order in France : (

Also, dust filters have to be periodically cleaned as well, no? I personally just blow some compressed air about ~once a year, seems like much less effort.

Can somebody explain the point of the glass panels? More bulky + worse cooling just so you can see the components better? Don't know about you guys, but when I use my PC I usually look at the monitor, not the case.. :)

Ok I'm convinced :) They should make an SFX-L as well.

I would like to see some real world data. For me it's just not physical, how can a smaller fan be more quiet. I have SX500-LG v1.1, absolutely no issues for me :) I had problems with Silverstone's ST45SF-G and SX600-G, they were too loud for me and SX500-LG one has no problems whatsoever...

Don't buy SFX, buy SFX-L. There is no point in buying SFX when you can fit an SFX-L, they are cheaper and significantly more silent due to the bigger fan. I have SX500-G with GTX 1080 and it is not even spinning most of the time.

You bastards, Cryorig C7 is now completely sold out on German amazon and local stores !! I hate you guys :D

Looks kinda smaller than Cryorig C7.

dondan, So mass production started last week? Do you have a more concrete date when to expect delivery?

I was talking about future suggestions that dondan is planning to work on from January

A case that I would like to see is something that only supports: - Mini-ITX motherboard - mini factor GPUs (e.g. mini GTX 1070 GIGABYTE - Graphics Card - NVIDIA - PCI Express Solution - GeForce® GTX 10 Series - GeForce® GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC) - DCDC power supply. This can still be a beast PC...

Amazon.de: Einkaufsangebote: Acer XB280HKbprz 71,1 cm (28 Zoll) Monitor (Displayport, USB 3.0, 1ms Reaktionszeit, UHD, NVIDIA G-Sync, Höhenverstellbar, Pivot) schwarz Happy hunting : ) Look for adds that are "Sehr gut", which means that it is used but has a "very good" quality. Usually just...

@X-Zan, I've found a very nice 350€ deal from German Amazon for XB280HK, which is a 4K, 60 fps g-sync monitor. I can run everything maxed out with a GTX 1080, no problem. Sometimes framerate drops to ~35-40, but g-sync makes it unnoticeable, so it's a perfect combination. EDIT: Sometimes drops...

dondan, so this is just a sample for you to confirm the quality? Has mass production already started?

no riser ?